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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8310660" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I think RAI he is supposed to be able to take the entire pouch, but even if you nerf it like this he can choose what he takes out of the pouch.If you have seen this guy cast forcecage before or suspect he will then grab his ruby dust on turn 1.&nbsp; If you beat his initiative you have just taken away one of his most powerful spells.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you see him cast fireball go after his bat guano the turn after he does that.The Rogue is doing this with a bonus action, so it is not like he is wasting his action, he still gets to sneak attack or cast a spell himself or whatever.&nbsp;&nbsp; So the effect is limited (or nill if you fail the check), but it is not like he is giving up a whole lot to do it in many cases.&nbsp; And if he has something better to do that turn with his BA - like dash or hide or use the hand to pick up an enemies dropped weapon or use it to bandage a downed ally .... then he can do that as a bonus action instead.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8310660, member: 7030563"] I think RAI he is supposed to be able to take the entire pouch, but even if you nerf it like this he can choose what he takes out of the pouch. If you have seen this guy cast forcecage before or suspect he will then grab his ruby dust on turn 1. If you beat his initiative you have just taken away one of his most powerful spells. If you see him cast fireball go after his bat guano the turn after he does that. The Rogue is doing this with a bonus action, so it is not like he is wasting his action, he still gets to sneak attack or cast a spell himself or whatever. So the effect is limited (or nill if you fail the check), but it is not like he is giving up a whole lot to do it in many cases. And if he has something better to do that turn with his BA - like dash or hide or use the hand to pick up an enemies dropped weapon or use it to bandage a downed ally .... then he can do that as a bonus action instead. [/QUOTE]

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