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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 8310842" data-attributes="member: 6802951">?What?"Martial" doesn't generally mean "concerned only with hit points". In this context it means "uses non-magical means, such as skill and sheer grit".Encouraging an ally to fight on with camraderie and well-chosen words. Analysing a combat situation and their opponents to predict what they are doing next. Striking a particular area of an opponent to inflict a specific condition.Any (non-wuxia) martial arts or action movie hero is probably a martial hero for example. Precisely. Almost all of the non-ribbon abilities a fighter gets can pertain directly to combat. The actual capabilities of fighter subclasses are limited by being attached the the very damage-focused fighter class. Many people would like to see a less-damage-focused, but more tactical martial class - Like a wizard version of the battlemaster compared to the eldritch knight.Wizards have respectable (but not fighter-level) single-target damage, but their main strengths are battlefield control, AoE, buffing and debuffing, and out of combat utility.Its why a reasonably common suggestion for getting closer to a warlord from battlemaster is to forgo an attack to generate a superiority die - trading a tactical capability for raw damage. As I mentioned, the disadvantage would be due to the movement involved. In combat, creatures are assumed to be moving around within their space, dodging blows, or just angling for a specific view. If you're trying this before initiative is rolled, or the wizard is paralysed, there will not be disadvantage.Plus the disadvantage mechanic allows me to designate one dice as "did you get the bag?" and the other as "Did the wizard notice you?" Thus allowing more flexibility in the outcome. I read the intent of the action declaration to be removal of the entire pouch. Since component pouches are generally attached to the belt, or held by a strap looped over the shoulder, the Trickster would probably be trying to saw through the strap with a knife, and then gently easing the bag off the wizard so they don't notice the sudden loss of weight.</blockquote>

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