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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8312539" data-attributes="member: 7030563">So then I could pick out the bat schite, I just would not know if it was black, brown or whitish until I got it out .... but I would still get it outNo I don't remember there is no sense of touch, I remember you making that up and claiming that and as of failing to state how the hand could do ANY of its powers without that.And you don't get to take things away.  You are arguing the hand can't do something the book says it can do and you are claiming this is because of this "lack of feel" that is not mentioned anywhere, nor is it stated that feeling is needed or even relevant to execute said abilities.You are making up this whole "feeling" thing.  The rules do not say you need to use tactile feel to identify what you are grabbing.No it says you can take something out of a pack.  That is something specific or it would be irrelevant.  Further if you compare it to the spell, the spell actually does mention specific things.Please answer, how can it pick a lock without any feeling? When I send it in my own pack to get a potion of healing, how do I know when to close its fingers around the potion to pull it out without feeling?  How do I know I got the potion of healing and not the potion of poison that is in the same compartment?What if my Rogue is carrying a pouch of dice and I send my mage hand into my own pouch to get out a red 20-sided dice.  Would it get out a red 20 sided dice?  How would it do this without being able to feel it or see the color?There are only two possibilities here:1. Feeling is irrelevant for these things due to magic (and would therefore be irrelevant to your argument too)2. It has feeling.</blockquote>

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