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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8315313" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Scaling works both ways.  The FIVE abilities all get better with proficiency, expertise and ASIs taken in their areas as well.So yes if I continue to invest heavily in intelligence and skills then the gap in AC, hps and damage between me and what I could have will increase, but so will the gap in the five skills I am good at and what a combat optimized character would have.More than likely I will not pump intelligence any more, but I absolutely will take skill expert and proficiency bonuses and expertise will continue to scale and widen that gap even without  further intelligence investment.When we talk about skills the one that always kills me is constitution.  For a non-caster  going above 10 is mostly useless.  There are no skills that use it and it is a few more hps that probably won't ever matter for most classes other than barbarian.  If you are going to go down at a 10 constitution it is rare that a 14 would keep you alive.  By the time the hps matter there are so many ways to avoid hits, avoid death or avoid damage that it is usually irrelevant the vast majority of the time.To put it another way, you are going to make an Arcana check or even a History check far more than the hp difference is going to matter in battle in my experience.  AC (and therefore dexterity and wisdom) is a different story.</blockquote>