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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8315377" data-attributes="member: 63508"><p>It hurt my party's fighter. All 3 of them.</p><p></p><p>As a player, my 5e party lost 3 fighters attempting to dump CON before the player throw up his hands.</p><p></p><p><u>Your DM must be nice.</u> I haven't seen an melee PC with a CON under 13 survive the whole campaign as a player or DM.</p><p></p><p></p><p>5e made rogues damage monsters. If your fighter is not taking high STR/DEX and taking mental ASI and roleplay feats, a rogue WILL bypass him in combat power.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Your highest score goes to your attacking ability score: STR or DEX</p><p>Your second highest goes to CON for HP or a RK, DEX because 5e DEX is OP and very strong in combat, or INT if you are a AA or EK</p><p>Your 3rd highest goes to CON if you didn't choose it already or DEX if you want a decent ranged attack and don't have one.</p><p></p><p>So really for Exploration and Social a fighter has:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Go hardcore high Dex and take Dex skills from background. Archery works. TWF stinks without thee damage buffs rogues and half caster have.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">By being a Dex archer, you can dump CON and Take INT/WIS/CON secondary, choose a social or exploration BG.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Convince another player to run melee.</li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Take INT secondary and goes Eldritch Knight or Arcane Archer. Congratulations. Your fighter is not longer a noncaster.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">PRAY TO LADY LUCK. Roll well for stats.. Take INT/WIS/CON secondary, choose a social or exploration BG. Congratulations. You cheated the system.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Generate a standard PC. Take INT/WIS/CON secondary, choose a social or exploration BG. Take roleplay feats. Hope the other players are okay with you running a weak fighter.</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8315377, member: 63508"] It hurt my party's fighter. All 3 of them. As a player, my 5e party lost 3 fighters attempting to dump CON before the player throw up his hands. [U]Your DM must be nice.[/U] I haven't seen an melee PC with a CON under 13 survive the whole campaign as a player or DM. 5e made rogues damage monsters. If your fighter is not taking high STR/DEX and taking mental ASI and roleplay feats, a rogue WILL bypass him in combat power. Your highest score goes to your attacking ability score: STR or DEX Your second highest goes to CON for HP or a RK, DEX because 5e DEX is OP and very strong in combat, or INT if you are a AA or EK Your 3rd highest goes to CON if you didn't choose it already or DEX if you want a decent ranged attack and don't have one. So really for Exploration and Social a fighter has: [LIST] [*]Go hardcore high Dex and take Dex skills from background. Archery works. TWF stinks without thee damage buffs rogues and half caster have. [LIST] [*]By being a Dex archer, you can dump CON and Take INT/WIS/CON secondary, choose a social or exploration BG. [LIST] [*]Convince another player to run melee. [/LIST] [/LIST] [*]Take INT secondary and goes Eldritch Knight or Arcane Archer. Congratulations. Your fighter is not longer a noncaster. [*]PRAY TO LADY LUCK. Roll well for stats.. Take INT/WIS/CON secondary, choose a social or exploration BG. Congratulations. You cheated the system. [*]Generate a standard PC. Take INT/WIS/CON secondary, choose a social or exploration BG. Take roleplay feats. Hope the other players are okay with you running a weak fighter. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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