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<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 8316638" data-attributes="member: 7015698"><p>I've probably mentionned this before, but I think one of my favorite example of a Warlord to point to is from this little show called <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8r6P7ukPGo" target="_blank"><em>Class of the Titans</em></a>. Class of the Titans is about seven descendant of Greek mythological heroes who are recruited by the Greek Pantheon to stop Cronus who escaped from Tartarus (something about a prophesy). Each of them has a supernatural gift from their ancestor.</p><p></p><p>Herry gets the super strength of Heracles</p><p>Atlanta gets the super speed of Atalanta</p><p>Thessa gets the instinct of Theseus, which manifest as precognitive psychic powers</p><p>Odie gets the intellect of Odysseus and is a total Artificer</p><p>Archie is a descendant of Achilles who has all the natural aptitude of a warrior that his ancestor had (and he never gets sick)</p><p>I'll skip over Neil for a moment and go straight to Jay, who is the descendant of Jason.</p><p></p><p>Jay's gift is 'leadership'. He's a competant warrior of his own, but he doesn't any of the near superhuman gift of the others when it comes to facing monsters sent by Cronus. He's a normal human... But his skill at leadership become incredibly obvious whenever he's being kept from the others. Without him, they stop getting along as easily (they didn't know each other before this whole thing), they can't execute their plans well, they get fooled by the bad guys... It's a total mess. You take any of the heavy bruiser, the precog or the super genius away and they barely lose a fraction of their abilities, but take Jay away and it's like they lost 50% of their power.</p><p></p><p>As for Neil... Neil is totally the bard of the group (or a Warlord with my 'Chosen One' subclass, because he still learned to fight). He's a super model and the descendant of Narcissus. His gifts are 'good looks' and 'luck'. Surprisingly, him not being there is just as much trouble as Jay being missing. I swear, the two of them are like 90% of the team's power.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, fun show, legally available on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eveMc_QgdOM" target="_blank">Youtube</a> too. David Kaye plays Cronus.</p><p></p><p>But it shows that 'someone who contributes mostly by being a leader' can totally be a narrative concept and not necessarily a mechanical one.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah! That's true... and also, that 5e has all sorts of small mechanical issue that make support character hard to design, but are not usually apparent in play. For exemple, you basically need two different effect to support both Casters and Weapon users instead of just one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 8316638, member: 7015698"] I've probably mentionned this before, but I think one of my favorite example of a Warlord to point to is from this little show called [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8r6P7ukPGo'][I]Class of the Titans[/I][/URL]. Class of the Titans is about seven descendant of Greek mythological heroes who are recruited by the Greek Pantheon to stop Cronus who escaped from Tartarus (something about a prophesy). Each of them has a supernatural gift from their ancestor. Herry gets the super strength of Heracles Atlanta gets the super speed of Atalanta Thessa gets the instinct of Theseus, which manifest as precognitive psychic powers Odie gets the intellect of Odysseus and is a total Artificer Archie is a descendant of Achilles who has all the natural aptitude of a warrior that his ancestor had (and he never gets sick) I'll skip over Neil for a moment and go straight to Jay, who is the descendant of Jason. Jay's gift is 'leadership'. He's a competant warrior of his own, but he doesn't any of the near superhuman gift of the others when it comes to facing monsters sent by Cronus. He's a normal human... But his skill at leadership become incredibly obvious whenever he's being kept from the others. Without him, they stop getting along as easily (they didn't know each other before this whole thing), they can't execute their plans well, they get fooled by the bad guys... It's a total mess. You take any of the heavy bruiser, the precog or the super genius away and they barely lose a fraction of their abilities, but take Jay away and it's like they lost 50% of their power. As for Neil... Neil is totally the bard of the group (or a Warlord with my 'Chosen One' subclass, because he still learned to fight). He's a super model and the descendant of Narcissus. His gifts are 'good looks' and 'luck'. Surprisingly, him not being there is just as much trouble as Jay being missing. I swear, the two of them are like 90% of the team's power. Anyway, fun show, legally available on [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eveMc_QgdOM']Youtube[/URL] too. David Kaye plays Cronus. But it shows that 'someone who contributes mostly by being a leader' can totally be a narrative concept and not necessarily a mechanical one. Ah! That's true... and also, that 5e has all sorts of small mechanical issue that make support character hard to design, but are not usually apparent in play. For exemple, you basically need two different effect to support both Casters and Weapon users instead of just one. [/QUOTE]
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