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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8317875" data-attributes="member: 63508"><p>That's your issue right there. Nobility could get you access to a lot. All those expensive tutors and fancy upper class learning.</p><p> </p><p>Skill training</p><p>Weapons training</p><p>Magic training</p><p>Languages</p><p>Connections</p><p>Secret techniques</p><p></p><p>Really it D&D were sensible, their would be 3 skills classes: the noble, the scholar, and the rogue. In fantasy, the skill monkeys are street rats, aristocrats, and library nerds.</p><p></p><p>D&D just attempts to kldge it by forcing every primary skill user to be a rogue and aceept Thieves Cant and Sneak Attack.</p><p></p><p>Can't see it. There is littleary no Wisdom in fighter nor its subclasses.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Dind ding ding</p><p>That's my point.</p><p></p><p>D&D fans have contradictory desires</p><p></p><p>1) "I want fighters to be big gruff slayers who have no out of combat skills"</p><p>2) "I want fighter to represent knights, nobles, mechants, generals, gladiators, and merchanaries that have training in exploration, social, war, and downtime settings"</p><p></p><p>If Fighters are supposed to be knights, they shouldn't have to spend their background on to get Presuassion. Clerics and Arcan can get Religion and Arcana from just class.</p><p>If fighters are supposed to include warriors of brain, they should have features of mind.</p><p></p><p>But D&D fans are two faced about it. They really want fighters to be Da Big Stupid. And if fighters optimally can only FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT, caster have to be nerfed in combat.</p><p></p><p>Thats the weird part. Wizardfans insisting fighters have no brainpower end up nerfing their wizards 2 editions in a row.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8317875, member: 63508"] That's your issue right there. Nobility could get you access to a lot. All those expensive tutors and fancy upper class learning. Skill training Weapons training Magic training Languages Connections Secret techniques Really it D&D were sensible, their would be 3 skills classes: the noble, the scholar, and the rogue. In fantasy, the skill monkeys are street rats, aristocrats, and library nerds. D&D just attempts to kldge it by forcing every primary skill user to be a rogue and aceept Thieves Cant and Sneak Attack. Can't see it. There is littleary no Wisdom in fighter nor its subclasses. Dind ding ding That's my point. D&D fans have contradictory desires 1) "I want fighters to be big gruff slayers who have no out of combat skills" 2) "I want fighter to represent knights, nobles, mechants, generals, gladiators, and merchanaries that have training in exploration, social, war, and downtime settings" If Fighters are supposed to be knights, they shouldn't have to spend their background on to get Presuassion. Clerics and Arcan can get Religion and Arcana from just class. If fighters are supposed to include warriors of brain, they should have features of mind. But D&D fans are two faced about it. They really want fighters to be Da Big Stupid. And if fighters optimally can only FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT, caster have to be nerfed in combat. Thats the weird part. Wizardfans insisting fighters have no brainpower end up nerfing their wizards 2 editions in a row. [/QUOTE]
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