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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mind of tempest" data-source="post: 8320148" data-attributes="member: 7029233">yeah, I have met wise people who could not see a ball in front of their face, and perceptive people who are just incapable of thinking whether something is a good idea, it is bad fundamentally and should be corrected in some fashion. you have not factored in that this is a team game, so my what plus one or two does not matter when the warlock, bard or paladin is in the party as that player will dominate the area they always do, like suggesting the barbarian player does not do well in a fight, you have to factor in those are some of the most like classes by people who love the rp side so they will dominate not out of malice but on class structure and player's agency.plus the other people will just say why are you not letting the cha caster do it, why are you trying to do someone else job, stop butting in where you are not needed.also, the whole balance of the points is bad if 10 is average so a plus 0, plus 1 should be what is needed most of the time but it more or less pays to have plus 3 or go home.</blockquote>