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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 8322045" data-attributes="member: 7015698">In 4e, you do add your full CON score to your HP so if you increase it, you do gain a few extra HP. Not as much has changing your CON mod in 5e of course.If you're too affraid of too much HP just give them d6 HD. It'll balance out to be worth a d8 HD for someone who took CON as secondary. Give them only light armour proficiency and no incentive to get good DEX. We're talking about a +3 CON at first level versus a +2 on most character who are scared of being hit. If you don't consider +1 or +2 CHA to be significantly weaker at social skills than +3, then the difference between +3 and +2 CON shouldn't feel that great either. It's a tengeant for sure as we discuss the value of ability scores. But a CON caster would open up Sorcadin style shenanigans for the Barbarian and Fighter. It's at least something INTERESTING you could do with your physical score, even if you don't remain purely martial.How about spending Hit Dice instead of HP? That's ALSO a daily resource after all. Could work a bit like Sorcery Points but a little stronger.</blockquote>