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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8001381" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I don't know if education is really the main factor here. I'm not using it as a synonym myself. Education lets me know Latin and speak French. But I know plenty of better-educated people who can't handle accents. Whereas I know I can handle accents. I think it's more about how many accents you've encountered and lived with.</p><p></p><p>And that's a major difference now - sure, TV and so on has flattened out accents - I can see this over my own lifetime - but if you've encountered a lot of accents, especially thick ones, you deal more easily with new ones, and TV and other sources expose people to a lot of accents. I think my main edge here might be having parents who were Scottish and Northern respectively, and yet growing up in a diverse part of London. I don't think education helped much there (broader vocabulary and more familiarity with archaic words and root words, maybe).</p><p></p><p>Also, we're not talking about "back then". We're talking about me (or other people here) understanding people speaking in 1800s accents and verbiage <em>now</em>. I just don't think it would be<em> that </em>challenging. There would be some people who would just bounce off it. But there are people now who claim they can't understand Rab C. Nesbitt, who isn't actually hard to understand if you just listen, and perhaps have the mind for it.</p><p></p><p>I accept that some people would be all "BWUUUUH?!" because some people are like that about the most tepid accents, but I think a lot of us would be fine.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, but what I'm saying is, I don't believe that there's any <em>major </em>1800s British accent that I outright couldn't understand far better than any foreign language. Maybe if we found someone from a particularly weird part of the Highlands, or the Outer Hebrides (not really Britain anyway), or some weird little village with a unique accent you could, but no 1800s accent with more than, say, 20,000 speakers, is going to flummox me.</p><p></p><p>Again I accept they will flummox some people... many people even. Maybe I'm just being "triggered" as they say here lol? As you go further back it will get progressively harder. 1700s English is clearly trickier, and whilst Shakespeare is easy (and that is in part thanks to education), I bet 1600s would be getting kinda a tough, and by 1300s it will be extremely hard (until you tune in, which won't happen in a movie).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't find any US accents hard to follow at all (including Southern and Appalachian and so on). Or Canadian, or Australian, or New Zealand. I'm now wondering if I'm a freak of nature and circumstance though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8001381, member: 18"] I don't know if education is really the main factor here. I'm not using it as a synonym myself. Education lets me know Latin and speak French. But I know plenty of better-educated people who can't handle accents. Whereas I know I can handle accents. I think it's more about how many accents you've encountered and lived with. And that's a major difference now - sure, TV and so on has flattened out accents - I can see this over my own lifetime - but if you've encountered a lot of accents, especially thick ones, you deal more easily with new ones, and TV and other sources expose people to a lot of accents. I think my main edge here might be having parents who were Scottish and Northern respectively, and yet growing up in a diverse part of London. I don't think education helped much there (broader vocabulary and more familiarity with archaic words and root words, maybe). Also, we're not talking about "back then". We're talking about me (or other people here) understanding people speaking in 1800s accents and verbiage [I]now[/I]. I just don't think it would be[I] that [/I]challenging. There would be some people who would just bounce off it. But there are people now who claim they can't understand Rab C. Nesbitt, who isn't actually hard to understand if you just listen, and perhaps have the mind for it. I accept that some people would be all "BWUUUUH?!" because some people are like that about the most tepid accents, but I think a lot of us would be fine. Sure, but what I'm saying is, I don't believe that there's any [I]major [/I]1800s British accent that I outright couldn't understand far better than any foreign language. Maybe if we found someone from a particularly weird part of the Highlands, or the Outer Hebrides (not really Britain anyway), or some weird little village with a unique accent you could, but no 1800s accent with more than, say, 20,000 speakers, is going to flummox me. Again I accept they will flummox some people... many people even. Maybe I'm just being "triggered" as they say here lol? As you go further back it will get progressively harder. 1700s English is clearly trickier, and whilst Shakespeare is easy (and that is in part thanks to education), I bet 1600s would be getting kinda a tough, and by 1300s it will be extremely hard (until you tune in, which won't happen in a movie). I don't find any US accents hard to follow at all (including Southern and Appalachian and so on). Or Canadian, or Australian, or New Zealand. I'm now wondering if I'm a freak of nature and circumstance though. [/QUOTE]
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