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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fenris-77" data-source="post: 8002525" data-attributes="member: 6993955">Deadpool isn't addressing a fictional audience, he's addressing the actual audience. Fred Savage isn't a surrogate audience either, or at least not in any way that pierces the layers of fiction that make up the text of the PB. In the case of Iron Man 3 it doesn't matter that you have to stay for the credits, that doesn't change the presence of a fictional audience. That someone might miss the credits and not understand that just makes them mistaken, it doesn't change the fictional nature of the audience. The fact is Tony Stark isn't breaking the fourth wall but Deadpool does. The MCU does do some limited 4th wall breaking, but in the form of easter eggs that reference things from the comics, not anything to do with character awareness. That limited kind of 4th wall breaking is almost a given for a D&D movie, but to extend that to the characters in the movie being aware that they're fictional characters is something else entirely. The PB uses a whole layer of fictional abstraction to occlude the idea that the boy and/or the Grandpa might be, in some way, fictional stand-ins for the actual audience. The actual audience isn't addresses directly though. At best you can argue with confidence that the audience is expected to identify with the boy, and that his experience of being read the book is in some fashion supposed to be a commentary on the nature of storytelling. I also made the point several posts ago that I was talking about the comedy from the PB, and specifically the dialogue. I didn't suggested that the D&D movie call out the same tropes that you're talking about.</blockquote>

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