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<blockquote data-quote="PauloR" data-source="post: 9589066" data-attributes="member: 7030415">I'm not sure if it's raw, but they way I've always seen it being ruled is that once you first entered the area (and take your first 2d4 damage) the DM tells the player that the area is dangerous and asks if the PC (or decides if it's a monster) wants to keep moving through there. They don't know exactly where the &quot;dangerous area&quot; is, but can step back to avoid the damage and figure out a way to traverse the area safely - maybe flying over it, going around it, in this version, make a Perception check- or even swapping to.ranged attacks or something else.Back to the original problem, maybe it's better to say that, unless the PC/monster see the spell being cast (and know what it does), he doesn't get to use passive perception and must make and active check. Or, alternatively, if your passive Perception is 10 higher than the spell DC, you see the dangerous area no checks required.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="PauloR, post: 9589066, member: 7030415"] I'm not sure if it's raw, but they way I've always seen it being ruled is that once you first entered the area (and take your first 2d4 damage) the DM tells the player that the area is dangerous and asks if the PC (or decides if it's a monster) wants to keep moving through there. They don't know exactly where the "dangerous area" is, but can step back to avoid the damage and figure out a way to traverse the area safely - maybe flying over it, going around it, in this version, make a Perception check- or even swapping to.ranged attacks or something else. Back to the original problem, maybe it's better to say that, unless the PC/monster see the spell being cast (and know what it does), he doesn't get to use passive perception and must make and active check. Or, alternatively, if your passive Perception is 10 higher than the spell DC, you see the dangerous area no checks required. [/QUOTE]

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