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<blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8047327" data-attributes="member: 6855259"><p>It is more unbalancing when a cleric or other spellcaster dips rogue to get SA with his spiritual weapon. In that case he is getting hit rolls and damage according to the spell ability (which is presumably high) and getting SA on top of that when he/she would hit less often with a dex or strength attack. Additionally a character has a host of spells he could cast with his action.</p><p></p><p>For a rogue with 3 levels in cleric it is not unbalanced because the rogue could do about the same with a standard attack. To compare to 2-weapon fighting the difference is probably about 3-4dpr if both hit (comparing 2 short swords+dex vs spiritual weapon+rapier+dex+wis), but you have a marginally smaller chance to land SA since the spellcasting ability is presumably less than dex and you are losing at least 1d6 SA to access 2nd level spells.</p><p></p><p>The real imbalance comes from being able to sneak attack and take an action other than attack, so I would probably houserule this and say he can only get SA with his spiritual weapon if he takes the attack action (to include grapple or shove).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="auburn2, post: 8047327, member: 6855259"] It is more unbalancing when a cleric or other spellcaster dips rogue to get SA with his spiritual weapon. In that case he is getting hit rolls and damage according to the spell ability (which is presumably high) and getting SA on top of that when he/she would hit less often with a dex or strength attack. Additionally a character has a host of spells he could cast with his action. For a rogue with 3 levels in cleric it is not unbalanced because the rogue could do about the same with a standard attack. To compare to 2-weapon fighting the difference is probably about 3-4dpr if both hit (comparing 2 short swords+dex vs spiritual weapon+rapier+dex+wis), but you have a marginally smaller chance to land SA since the spellcasting ability is presumably less than dex and you are losing at least 1d6 SA to access 2nd level spells. The real imbalance comes from being able to sneak attack and take an action other than attack, so I would probably houserule this and say he can only get SA with his spiritual weapon if he takes the attack action (to include grapple or shove). [/QUOTE]
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