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<blockquote data-quote="Hawk Diesel" data-source="post: 8048076" data-attributes="member: 59848"><p>If you are using multiclassing and feats, there are lots of things to worry about. In terms of the feats I mentioned, I was not mentioning those for a rogue specifically, but rather in comparison to other builds that would utilize them.</p><p></p><p>Also, let's be realistic. A cleric dipping 3 levels of rogue is adding 2d6 damage once per turn in exchange for a higher level spell and some spell slots.</p><p></p><p>A rogue dipping 3 levels of cleric for spiritual weapon is losing out on 2d6 sneak attack. Additionally both are delaying access to an ASI. Not to mention both end up putting themselves at further disadvantage via MAD.</p><p></p><p>Also, if we ONLY judge these builds on DPR, then it isn't really capturing everything. Each brings with it their own utility in exploration and social phases of the game.</p><p></p><p>It's a gimmick. Is it powerful? Sure. But either way it also comes with downsides, and won't break the game or totally outshine other characters, especially in the hands of an experienced DM.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawk Diesel, post: 8048076, member: 59848"] If you are using multiclassing and feats, there are lots of things to worry about. In terms of the feats I mentioned, I was not mentioning those for a rogue specifically, but rather in comparison to other builds that would utilize them. Also, let's be realistic. A cleric dipping 3 levels of rogue is adding 2d6 damage once per turn in exchange for a higher level spell and some spell slots. A rogue dipping 3 levels of cleric for spiritual weapon is losing out on 2d6 sneak attack. Additionally both are delaying access to an ASI. Not to mention both end up putting themselves at further disadvantage via MAD. Also, if we ONLY judge these builds on DPR, then it isn't really capturing everything. Each brings with it their own utility in exploration and social phases of the game. It's a gimmick. Is it powerful? Sure. But either way it also comes with downsides, and won't break the game or totally outshine other characters, especially in the hands of an experienced DM. [/QUOTE]
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