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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brown Jenkin" data-source="post: 496430" data-attributes="member: 2572">Warning! Spoilers ahead. I'm am very confused after reading this quote. What is he thinking? I will agree that Frodo's half of the story is about the relationship between him, Sam and Gollum. However to say that they wanted to have a conclusion with those characters without including Shelob seams that they are missing the point of this relationship. Shelob is not just some monsterous spider that jumps out at them, to think this misses the point of Shelob. She is instead the embodimemnt of Gollum's betrayal of Frodo. As far as I undertsand the relationship Frodo believes he understands Gollum and that with the power of the ring (only somewhat literally) he is able to control Gollum. Gollum's betrayal of this trust is a critical part of this relationship. This also helps to demonstrate the power of the ring and how no-one but Sauron is able properly use it. Frodo by using it to control Gollum is only being decieved by the Ring which instead of achieving the good result intended instead leads to tragedy. Additionally this event also wraps up Sam's relationships with both Frodo and Gollum. With Frodo's death Sam is torn in his feelings. Always suspisious of Gollum this event only reinforces is previous feelings. Sam now has another problem when his devotion to Frodo is further tested by what he is to do next. Does he take care of his fallen Master or does he do what his Master could no longer do and continue on the quest lone, abandoning Frodo's remains. I am currious how we are to concude with these characters without incuding this defineing event that brings all of thier relationships to thier conclusion. It is not that I need Shelob herself since on her own she is a minor character that could be replaced with something else, but the role she plays is integral to concluding and breaking the trio. Just as FoTR is ended by the breaking of the Fellowship so to is TTT ended with the breaking of Frodo and Sam's bonds by the betrayal of Gollum.I am not fixated on needing to maintain all aspects of the books but I feel this is a larger break than what happpened in the First Movie. I missed Tom Bombadill, but understood that he needed to be cut for time.  I understood the desire to up Arwen's role at the expense of Glorfindel. I did not complain about upping the action scenes in Moria to increase pacing. I did not complain that the FotR concluded with chapter 1 of TTT because that helped wrap up the Story that was being told. I am concearned however that Jackson here is changing an important part of the story that Tolkien was telling. While I may not always agree with Tolkien's aproach, here I agree with him 100% that this part of the story should end with the death of Frodo.Appologies to all for the length of that, but I got a little perturbed after reading Jackson's quote and needed to respond as best I could. Hopefully Jackson will prove me wrong when I finaly see this.</blockquote>

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