[SSS] The Slarecian Legacy - also doomed?

[Alzrius]

Just because the general public won't have copies of the EPsiHB until April doesn't mean that publishers won't have access to the material beforehand.

Given the release date, Krieg, I'd guess that that's exactly what it means - there is no way WotC would allow other publishers to use materials in the XPH in a d20 book, and then release said book a month before the XPH comes out; essentially scooping WotC with their own material. It just wouldn't happen that way. Hence, a release date of March at the latest seems pretty definitive that Echoes of the Past won't have XPH material.

Ashy, thanks for the 3.5E tip, but I was sort of taking it for granted that all their future releases would be for the most current edition of the game. That's not the same thing as using XPH material though.

 

[Nightfall]

Al,

Just have to wait and see then won't we?

 

[BigFreekinGoblinoid]

The real fun of the Scarred Lands setting sourcebooks is the fluff anyway.

 

[Duncan Haldane]

Al,

Just have to wait and see then won't we?

Nightfall, I'm sure that Alzius is correct, unfortunately.

While the rules will be compliant with 3.5 Core Rules, I don't see how they could publish anything about the XPsiHB until it is part of the SRD.

The PSiHB is now part of the SRD, but was not when it was first released.

Although I like the idea of having a Slarecian book, if it is to use Psionic rules, I would prefer it waited until after the 3.5 Psionic rulebook was published.

Duncan

 

[Ashy]

Ashy, thanks for the 3.5E tip, but I was sort of taking it for granted that all their future releases would be for the most current edition of the game. That's not the same thing as using XPH material though.

No prob - that's really all I *could* say, other than it was a BLAST to work on!

 

[Grazzt]

Given the release date, Krieg, I'd guess that that's exactly what it means - there is no way WotC would allow other publishers to use materials in the XPH in a d20 book, and then release said book a month before the XPH comes out; essentially scooping WotC with their own material. It just wouldn't happen that way. Hence, a release date of March at the latest seems pretty definitive that Echoes of the Past won't have XPH material.

Um- what about the original Creature Collection? It was 3e format, layout, monsters, etc. and it came out BEFORE the Monster Manual....and IIRC, SSS was privy to the 3e rules (like a lot of us were privy to the 3.5 rules) before they were out.

 

[Gez]

Gez, I was referring to having worked on Echos, sorry for the confusion...

Not a real confusion, I understood you worked on Echoes. I just wondered, when you said 3.5 compatible, whether you meant 3.0 psionics with 3.5 core rules, or 3.5 psionics.

Anyway, the answer is clear. Now it's up to WotC and the amount of backward compatibility they keep.

Um- what about the original Creature Collection? It was 3e format, layout, monsters, etc. and it came out BEFORE the Monster Manual....and IIRC, SSS was privy to the 3e rules (like a lot of us were privy to the 3.5 rules) before they were out.

Yeah. It was also the most bogus d20 sourcebook published by professionals. This isn't a slam against its writers. But rules given in advance have to be complete and definitive (two things I don't think they had), and well understood (which was a bit hard in so small a time). The latter can be winged nowaday, since the d20 system's design philosophies are now well known and explained, but the former is still possible.

 

[eryndel]

Another good example would be the Players series and 3.5. The developers were privy to the new 3.5 rules to make sure their books were compliant (or at least informed in the process of refining the new ruleset.) However, they weren't allowed to print until after 3.5 came out.
I'm certain that all the books that are coming out will be 3.5 compatible but if XPsiH is coming out after Echoes, then its pretty clear that Echoes won't be using XPsiH rules. And it's possible that they wouldn't even be allowed to use these rules because it's unclear whether it will be OGC or not.

Werner Hager

 

[Alzrius]

Um- what about the original Creature Collection? It was 3e format, layout, monsters, etc. and it came out BEFORE the Monster Manual....

...which is the exact reason that will never happen again. WotC got scooped on their own material once (by exactly one day), and after that they've been very careful to make sure it never happens again. Remember that no 3.5E material saw light before the 3.5E Core Rulebooks went on sale. The original CC is why Echoes, which comes out before the EPsiHB, won't have 3.5E psionics.

and IIRC, SSS was privy to the 3e rules (like a lot of us were privy to the 3.5 rules) before they were out.

I'm not saying that SSS couldn't be privy to the new psionics rules before the EPsiHB hits the shelves, I'm just saying that even if they are, there is no way WotC will let them release a book with said info a month or more before the EPsiHB is released.

 

[Voadam]

Um- what about the original Creature Collection? It was 3e format, layout, monsters, etc. and it came out BEFORE the Monster Manual....and IIRC, SSS was privy to the 3e rules (like a lot of us were privy to the 3.5 rules) before they were out.

Unfortunately that was with draft rules that were not the same as the released 3.0 rules.