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<blockquote data-quote="gribble" data-source="post: 4875122" data-attributes="member: 12430"><p>Really? I don't (and have never) seen an 8 as a "very low stat" in any edition of D&D. Sure, it's worse than average, but that's what I see it as. In fact (even when not optimising for an 18) I almost always make sure I have an 8 expressly <strong>for </strong>RP reasons, and I've never found having an 8 to detract from RP. How many people do you know who are average or better at everything? Usually everyone has a weak point where they're slightly sub-par.</p><p></p><p>How do you find that it detracts from RP?</p><p></p><p>That aside, I've definitely found the "standard array" in 4e to be either:</p><p><strong>16 16 12 12 10 8</strong> or <strong>16 16 13 11 10 8</strong> (curiously enough, neither of these are included in the PHB table)</p><p>or</p><p><strong>18 14 11 10 10 8</strong></p><p></p><p>I'd say that 90+% of the 4e characters I've played or encountered have used one of those 2 arrays, depending on racial bonuses and how MAD the class is.</p><p></p><p>I don't think I've <strong>ever </strong>seen a 4e character that uses the "standard" array...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gribble, post: 4875122, member: 12430"] Really? I don't (and have never) seen an 8 as a "very low stat" in any edition of D&D. Sure, it's worse than average, but that's what I see it as. In fact (even when not optimising for an 18) I almost always make sure I have an 8 expressly [B]for [/B]RP reasons, and I've never found having an 8 to detract from RP. How many people do you know who are average or better at everything? Usually everyone has a weak point where they're slightly sub-par. How do you find that it detracts from RP? That aside, I've definitely found the "standard array" in 4e to be either: [B]16 16 12 12 10 8[/B] or [B]16 16 13 11 10 8[/B] (curiously enough, neither of these are included in the PHB table) or [B]18 14 11 10 10 8[/B] I'd say that 90+% of the 4e characters I've played or encountered have used one of those 2 arrays, depending on racial bonuses and how MAD the class is. I don't think I've [B]ever [/B]seen a 4e character that uses the "standard" array... [/QUOTE]
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