Standing up and 5 foot step

[Someone]

We had a bit of rules argument yesterday and I wanted to know your opinion. We had a prone enemy 5 feet away from one of the PCs; I believed she could stand up (a move action, which is doesn't have to be the same as actually moving), move 5 feet and attack, while others thought that standing up enters the "performing any kind of movement" cathegory and therefore she couldn't do a 5 foot step.

 

[Infiniti2000]

The confusing part is distinguishing "Move Action" from a move. Standing up is probably not actual movement, which although not explicitly defined, is generally viewed as moving (up to) your speed.

 

[Dross]

We had a bit of rules argument yesterday and I wanted to know your opinion. We had a prone enemy 5 feet away from one of the PCs; I believed she could stand up (a move action, which is doesn't have to be the same as actually moving), move 5 feet and attack, while others thought that standing up enters the "performing any kind of movement" cathegory and therefore she couldn't do a 5 foot step.

There was this argument in another thread. One thing to note is where to draw the line of making "any kind of movement" deny the ability of a 5 foot step.
Drawing a weapon? getting material components for spells? casting a spell? picking an item from the ground in the square next to you?

I agree with Infiniti2000. This isn't movement as in moving into anotehr square, so a 5 foot step is possible.

 

[1500run]

Someone, the players in your group need to read the big brown book that has, ya know, the rules.

nothing invalid about standing up, taking a 5', then making a single attack.

 

[Wish]

If somebody stands up, are they in the same square they were in before they stood up? Yes. Therefore, it's not movement.

 

[boolean]

I'd direct your players to the last line of p.138 and the first two lines of p.139 of the PHB.

 

[tricky_bob]

I'd direct your players to the last line of p.138 and the first two lines of p.139 of the PHB.

Seconded, a 5ft. step can be made before, during or after an action.

Standing up is a "Move Action"
5ft. step is a "No Action"
Attacking is a "Standard Action"

I think the confusion comes from the Movement part. You can't move and take a 5ft. step in the same round. However, if the Movement part of your round was a non-movement move action, then you can.

Examples of non-movement move actions..
Standing up from Prone
Direct or redirect an active spell
Draw a weapon
Mount or dismount a Horse
Pick up an item
Ready or lose a shield

you get the idea...

 

[Darklone]

I'd direct your players to the last line of p.138 and the first two lines of p.139 of the PHB.

... and as a little help from your friends, have a look at Skill tricks in Comp Scoundrel for the next time. Sudden Stand and Nimble Stand.