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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 7592487" data-attributes="member: 6716779"><p>Sisko doesn't seem to get that much screen time though at leat in main plot points of the show, DS9 seems to be truly an ensemble cast. Odo and Quark seem to get a lot of attention as well, DS9 doesn't seem to be so focused on Sisko. Sisko also makes mistakes and violates his principles to serve the greater good, he comes across as less preachy etc than say Kirk/Picard. </p><p></p><p> Not sure about Voyager, but TNG and TOS Picard and Kirk were the main characters IMHO. </p><p></p><p> Burnhams not such a mary sue IMHO the two main problems are she isn't very likeable and they haven't put much effort into developing anyone else or showcasing anyone else. Comparing with DS9 they have multiple characters that are interesting/likable including the villains like Gul Dukat. Bashir is the least interesting character and I even like him, just less that the others. I thought the cyborg was potentially interesting but by the time they developed her they killed her off in the same episode. </p><p></p><p> Discovery also doesn't have interesting support characters once you get away from the main ones. There is no real equivalent of Nog, Garek, Rom, Gul Dukat, or in jokes like Morn. Go back to the older Treks if you don't like Kirk/Picard who about Scotty, Spock, Data, Worf etc. </p><p></p><p> Also since the 90's I think people like characters to be a bit more complex with some flaws. A bit darker (Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Game of Thrones, DS9, B5, etc). Even the Rock/Stone Cold Steve Austin lol which were around during DS9/Voyager. Batman as well. We're 2 episodes behind in STD as DS9 (has been so good by comparison and we have been binge watching that. My wifes not a Trekkie (even less than me I know the basics), but she has enjoyed DS9 as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 7592487, member: 6716779"] Sisko doesn't seem to get that much screen time though at leat in main plot points of the show, DS9 seems to be truly an ensemble cast. Odo and Quark seem to get a lot of attention as well, DS9 doesn't seem to be so focused on Sisko. Sisko also makes mistakes and violates his principles to serve the greater good, he comes across as less preachy etc than say Kirk/Picard. Not sure about Voyager, but TNG and TOS Picard and Kirk were the main characters IMHO. Burnhams not such a mary sue IMHO the two main problems are she isn't very likeable and they haven't put much effort into developing anyone else or showcasing anyone else. Comparing with DS9 they have multiple characters that are interesting/likable including the villains like Gul Dukat. Bashir is the least interesting character and I even like him, just less that the others. I thought the cyborg was potentially interesting but by the time they developed her they killed her off in the same episode. Discovery also doesn't have interesting support characters once you get away from the main ones. There is no real equivalent of Nog, Garek, Rom, Gul Dukat, or in jokes like Morn. Go back to the older Treks if you don't like Kirk/Picard who about Scotty, Spock, Data, Worf etc. Also since the 90's I think people like characters to be a bit more complex with some flaws. A bit darker (Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Game of Thrones, DS9, B5, etc). Even the Rock/Stone Cold Steve Austin lol which were around during DS9/Voyager. Batman as well. We're 2 episodes behind in STD as DS9 (has been so good by comparison and we have been binge watching that. My wifes not a Trekkie (even less than me I know the basics), but she has enjoyed DS9 as well. [/QUOTE]
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