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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 7908311" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p>You are making a lot of unsupported claims about the show here, and it's why nobody in the thread seems to be following your train of thought. Now, this is just a casual conversation, you don't have to dig up any hard evidence if you don't want to, but . . . . without some actual evidence of your claims, I just can't buy anything you're selling here. </p><p></p><p>In my view, this show is clearly aimed at the adult crowd (<em>although I'm sure the showrunners would love younger audiences to join in too</em>), adults who are long-time Star Trek fans, and adults who aren't terribly familiar with Star Trek, but do love good cerebral sci-fi. The writers have a great knowledge of Trek lore, and they are very deliberately building on top of it for this show. The show's premise, if anything, builds too much on Trek lore that it risks losing viewers who haven't watched The Next Generation (<em>my Mom is a bit confused about what's going on</em>). All of my Trekkie friends are excited about the show, my family (non-Trekkies) are watching it, and many of my 13-year-old students are also (I'm a middle-school teacher). </p><p></p><p>I'm sure we'll get some "collectibles" at some point down the road, if not actual toys, and the lack thereof after 2 episodes doesn't concern me in the least. In the past, one of the only ways to get sci-fi on TV was to aim it at kids and tie-in a toyline, but that's not true anymore and hasn't been for quite some time. Sci-fi showrunners have also been given more power to delay merchandising tie-ins to avoid spoilers (the whole Baby Yoda thing).</p><p></p><p>And ultimately, Picard isn't a continuation of The Next Generation, not really, despite the main character. It's a different show, a different style of storytelling, aimed at a different audience than sci-fi fans in the late 80s. And it's only one egg in the Star Trek basket, alongside Discovery and the several shows and movies that are in the works right now.</p><p></p><p>All of the media I've seen so far on Picard has been gushing, the only complaint that comes to mind is the slow-burn of the story (<em>we haven't met most of the characters teased in the trailers yet</em>). I haven't seen any of the negative chatter you reference . . . . although I don't hang out on the Star Trek equivalent to ENWorld (<em>not even sure what that is</em>). I wouldn't be surprised if some cranky Star Trek purists are upset, just as we have a contingent of folks here on ENWorld who manage to find complaints about almost everything WotC does with D&D. But I'm not worried that Picard is in danger! Season 2 is already greenlit, and there's a lot of excited, happy fans tuning in every week as the bio-android mystery deepens.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 7908311, member: 18182"] You are making a lot of unsupported claims about the show here, and it's why nobody in the thread seems to be following your train of thought. Now, this is just a casual conversation, you don't have to dig up any hard evidence if you don't want to, but . . . . without some actual evidence of your claims, I just can't buy anything you're selling here. In my view, this show is clearly aimed at the adult crowd ([I]although I'm sure the showrunners would love younger audiences to join in too[/I]), adults who are long-time Star Trek fans, and adults who aren't terribly familiar with Star Trek, but do love good cerebral sci-fi. The writers have a great knowledge of Trek lore, and they are very deliberately building on top of it for this show. The show's premise, if anything, builds too much on Trek lore that it risks losing viewers who haven't watched The Next Generation ([I]my Mom is a bit confused about what's going on[/I]). All of my Trekkie friends are excited about the show, my family (non-Trekkies) are watching it, and many of my 13-year-old students are also (I'm a middle-school teacher). I'm sure we'll get some "collectibles" at some point down the road, if not actual toys, and the lack thereof after 2 episodes doesn't concern me in the least. In the past, one of the only ways to get sci-fi on TV was to aim it at kids and tie-in a toyline, but that's not true anymore and hasn't been for quite some time. Sci-fi showrunners have also been given more power to delay merchandising tie-ins to avoid spoilers (the whole Baby Yoda thing). And ultimately, Picard isn't a continuation of The Next Generation, not really, despite the main character. It's a different show, a different style of storytelling, aimed at a different audience than sci-fi fans in the late 80s. And it's only one egg in the Star Trek basket, alongside Discovery and the several shows and movies that are in the works right now. All of the media I've seen so far on Picard has been gushing, the only complaint that comes to mind is the slow-burn of the story ([I]we haven't met most of the characters teased in the trailers yet[/I]). I haven't seen any of the negative chatter you reference . . . . although I don't hang out on the Star Trek equivalent to ENWorld ([I]not even sure what that is[/I]). I wouldn't be surprised if some cranky Star Trek purists are upset, just as we have a contingent of folks here on ENWorld who manage to find complaints about almost everything WotC does with D&D. But I'm not worried that Picard is in danger! Season 2 is already greenlit, and there's a lot of excited, happy fans tuning in every week as the bio-android mystery deepens. [/QUOTE]
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