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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7953770" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>I'd add another element here. People who dislike a product who presume when "toxic fandom" is mentioned, that it immediately applies to them. That if we start talking about the folks who are going way over the line in their spewing of vitriol and make jokey videos about them being trolls and getting covered in poop that this applies to ANYONE who criticizes the product. Which, of course, couldn't be further from the truth. But, people, for some reason, seem to come to the conclusion that the reason that a segment of fandom is being called toxic is because they don't like something. That's not why fans are being called toxic. They are being called toxic because they do nothing but spew hate and vitriol at every single opportunity, making any sort of conversation impossible, and turn every single opportunity into a self-absorbed screed against whatever is being hated on.</p><p></p><p>And, for some truly bizarre reason, people who simply dislike a product actually seem to self-identify with these other "fans". It absolutely boggles my mind. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thus we get Exhibit A here. Someone who came into every single Star Wars thread for YEARS and flung poo about how he HATED all things Star Wars. Over and over and over again. Without end. Without a single time stopping and listening to those who actually liked Star Wars. [USER=6716779]@Zardnaar[/USER], that's why you got labeled as toxic. I'm sorry, but, it's true. You spewed vitriol in every single Star Wars thread for years. You went beyond simply disliking the property and off into the land of proselytizing how bad it was and how everyone should agree with you that it's bad without ever making any attempt at anything remotely like a balanced view.</p><p></p><p>That's the definition of vitriolic fan. Someone who didn't like 4e? Cool. Yup we should listen to them. Someone who came on En World to fling poo in every single 4e thread, who took joy in selectively quoting dev's to "prove" how WotC hated fans? On and on. Repeatedly for YEARS? Naw, you don't listen to that person. You boot that person from fandom.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7953770, member: 22779"] I'd add another element here. People who dislike a product who presume when "toxic fandom" is mentioned, that it immediately applies to them. That if we start talking about the folks who are going way over the line in their spewing of vitriol and make jokey videos about them being trolls and getting covered in poop that this applies to ANYONE who criticizes the product. Which, of course, couldn't be further from the truth. But, people, for some reason, seem to come to the conclusion that the reason that a segment of fandom is being called toxic is because they don't like something. That's not why fans are being called toxic. They are being called toxic because they do nothing but spew hate and vitriol at every single opportunity, making any sort of conversation impossible, and turn every single opportunity into a self-absorbed screed against whatever is being hated on. And, for some truly bizarre reason, people who simply dislike a product actually seem to self-identify with these other "fans". It absolutely boggles my mind. Thus we get Exhibit A here. Someone who came into every single Star Wars thread for YEARS and flung poo about how he HATED all things Star Wars. Over and over and over again. Without end. Without a single time stopping and listening to those who actually liked Star Wars. [USER=6716779]@Zardnaar[/USER], that's why you got labeled as toxic. I'm sorry, but, it's true. You spewed vitriol in every single Star Wars thread for years. You went beyond simply disliking the property and off into the land of proselytizing how bad it was and how everyone should agree with you that it's bad without ever making any attempt at anything remotely like a balanced view. That's the definition of vitriolic fan. Someone who didn't like 4e? Cool. Yup we should listen to them. Someone who came on En World to fling poo in every single 4e thread, who took joy in selectively quoting dev's to "prove" how WotC hated fans? On and on. Repeatedly for YEARS? Naw, you don't listen to that person. You boot that person from fandom. [/QUOTE]
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