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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9622792" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>The "Weekend at Bernies" Ferengi one is a real all-timer for Star Trek too - I think it's The Magnificent Ferengi. Just incredible.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it's more that, specifically, Enterprise tried to do humour, and was just really, really, really bad at it. Like, the writers just weren't good at comedy, and thought stuff was funny that just wasn't - particularly anything involving Trip (I mean, not uncommon in the early 2000s, man there were a lot of comedy misses on US network TV back then). And then we didn't have any Trek shows until Discovery, and Discovery was trying way, way too hard to be Dark and Serious and Grown-Up in the way only a show produced by people who are insecure about that sort of thing can be. Instead of actually being those things it generally just ends up Edgy and Po-Faced (not that it was without charm but...).</p><p></p><p>DS9 does a ton of humour and does it well though. Suggest a re-watch, stat! Indeed I'd say it was better at humour than TNG.</p><p></p><p>And SNW is pretty solid at humour and has some basically humour-focused episodes. It does occasionally stray into po-faced "WE'RE BIG BOYS WRITING BIG BOY THEMES!" territory like Disco, but relatively rarely.</p><p></p><p>Re: parody, LD intentionally toes the line between parody and not, but I think overall, especially after S1/2, it comes down on the "not parody" side of things.</p><p></p><p>There's also of course The Orville, which starts out as a nearly straight comedy, and gradually just starts taking itself more and more seriously, which shockingly, turns out to be an extremely good thing. I think by the end of S3 we've got to the point where the "jokes/shenanigans per episode" counter is probably lower than some episodes of DS9/TNG.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9622792, member: 18"] The "Weekend at Bernies" Ferengi one is a real all-timer for Star Trek too - I think it's The Magnificent Ferengi. Just incredible. I think it's more that, specifically, Enterprise tried to do humour, and was just really, really, really bad at it. Like, the writers just weren't good at comedy, and thought stuff was funny that just wasn't - particularly anything involving Trip (I mean, not uncommon in the early 2000s, man there were a lot of comedy misses on US network TV back then). And then we didn't have any Trek shows until Discovery, and Discovery was trying way, way too hard to be Dark and Serious and Grown-Up in the way only a show produced by people who are insecure about that sort of thing can be. Instead of actually being those things it generally just ends up Edgy and Po-Faced (not that it was without charm but...). DS9 does a ton of humour and does it well though. Suggest a re-watch, stat! Indeed I'd say it was better at humour than TNG. And SNW is pretty solid at humour and has some basically humour-focused episodes. It does occasionally stray into po-faced "WE'RE BIG BOYS WRITING BIG BOY THEMES!" territory like Disco, but relatively rarely. Re: parody, LD intentionally toes the line between parody and not, but I think overall, especially after S1/2, it comes down on the "not parody" side of things. There's also of course The Orville, which starts out as a nearly straight comedy, and gradually just starts taking itself more and more seriously, which shockingly, turns out to be an extremely good thing. I think by the end of S3 we've got to the point where the "jokes/shenanigans per episode" counter is probably lower than some episodes of DS9/TNG. [/QUOTE]
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