Star Trek XI: Will they ever learn?

Ankh-Morpork Guard said:
True. Though I think the fans of Star Trek wanted something that they just didn't get. Sure, you can't please everyone, but it seemed like there was a great premise for the show and it just went a completely different direction.

Sort of how I feel about Voyager --- nice premise, lousy execution. But that's just me. I'm aware that some people actually liked that thing.

ps. Trek rulz!!! Lucas UR teh suck!


Ow. It actually hurt my brain to type like that.
 
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DaveMage said:
That's partly why the Star Wars prequels (for me) aren't as exciting as the first trilogy. We know what happens to all (or most of) the characters, so part of the mystery is missing. (Now, that doesn't mean I won't be there for opening day of Episode III. I certainly will! It does look visually stunning!).
Perhaps, but some of us like to know how they came to be. Which is why I still watched Smallville, even though I know Clark is going to become Superman, Lex Luthor is going to be his main villain, and Lana is not going to marry Clark.

As for Star Trek, if there is any story or event I want to see in that universe, is the Earth-Romulan War which will lead into the formation of the UFP.

IOW, no more craps from Braga.
 

I've watched all the Star Trek series.

The only time I've ever disliked it was the early seasons of Voyager, where they kept encountering the same enemy over and over (the Kazan?), even though they were supposedly going straight home. (I mean, how stupid can you get?) And yet, I still watched it. Now Voyager had its moments, but in reality it was pooly written (IMO).

I think that what's being proposed for Trek XI is bad simply because if they are going into the past, and taking out all we know about Star Trek (especially from a character point of view) and working with a "blank slate", then why bother calling it Star Trek? Just make a cool SF movie.
 

Ranger REG said:
As for Star Trek, if there is any story or event I want to see in that universe, is the Earth-Romulan War which will lead into the formation of the UFP.

But if they do an Earth-Romulan war movie now, how could they not draw on the Enterprise series for some of its characters?

(And if they do, that would eliminate the so-called "blank slate" that the article mentions.)

What I really want is a series set after (or even way after) the events of Nemesis - on the Enterprise (be it Ent-E or Ent-F). Let's go back to the future...
 

DaveMage said:
What I really want is a series set after (or even way after) the events of Nemesis - on the Enterprise (be it Ent-E or Ent-F). Let's go back to the future...
As much as I want to see the Big E (yeah, I still love that Sovereign-class Heavy Explorer), the TNG cast is pretty much done for. Even fan attitude indicate that Riker is not going to be the kind of "star" captain they want to watch, which is fine for Jonathan Frakes despite grounding Thunderbirds to a halt.

If there is going to be a 24th-century Trek series, the franchise need to clean house first, and that means getting rid of Berman and Braga.

Keep in mind, there is little chance for fresh original stories since it is possible it has been done before in the previous five Trek series and ten Trek films. IOW, expect one original story for every ten rehashed.
 

DaveMage said:
I've watched all the Star Trek series.

The only time I've ever disliked it was the early seasons of Voyager, where they kept encountering the same enemy over and over (the Kazan?), even though they were supposedly going straight home. (I mean, how stupid can you get?) And yet, I still watched it. Now Voyager had its moments, but in reality it was pooly written (IMO).
The early moments of Voyager before Braga? I kinda like it, despite the "alien of the week" theme.

It's when Braga took over did it flushed down into apathy. Less focus on the original cast member and more on soon-to-be girlfriend Jeri Ryan and her Seven of Nine character. And his stories are awful, with awful pacing, especially where the rushed up the climax and the epilogue of the story.


DaveMage said:
I think that what's being proposed for Trek XI is bad simply because if they are going into the past, and taking out all we know about Star Trek (especially from a character point of view) and working with a "blank slate", then why bother calling it Star Trek? Just make a cool SF movie.
Because the Star Trek franchise is behind the development, not just Paramount. Paramount can make sci-fi films without the help of the franchise.
 



Ranger REG said:
Which is why I still watched Smallville, even though I know Clark is going to become Superman, Lex Luthor is going to be his main villain, and Lana is not going to marry Clark.
Damn, you should have put in a spoiler warning! Now you've gone and ruined the whole series for me. ;)
 


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