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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7562562" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>I have learned from experience to never EVER watch videos by Star Wars fans about TLJ. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't kid yourself. Rose is unpopular because she is a woman of colour. </p><p>John Boyega was in every scene of that sideplot and no one harassed him off Twitter with uncountable death threats. </p><p></p><p>That sideplot, which was all of 12 minutes and thus just 10% of the runtime, is actually pretty essential to the theme of the movie. It elevates the movie above almost every other Star Wars film, showing the actual people the rebellion is about as well as the growing legend of the resistance. It shows why Luke matters and why Luke's last stand was impressive. </p><p></p><p></p><p>So… because you liked it, the horrible worldbuilding is forgivable. But because you disliked TLJ, the horrible worldbuilding it mostly inherited from TFA is a dealbreaker. </p><p></p><p></p><p>As opposed to Han and Luke's masterpiece of a prison break? </p><p>Anakin's rescue of Obi-Wan on Geonosa? </p><p></p><p>Star Wars is full of plots and plans that fail spectacularly. Why is this one unforgivable? </p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, you freely admit that the complaints that you are making about TLJ occur elsewhere but you give them a pass.</p><p></p><p>You really need to stop. Just stop. Rewatch <em>The Last Jedi</em> and do some introspective soul searching and decide what you didn't like about the movie and why. </p><p>And you need to accept that it's okay to just not like a movie on a tonal level. To just inherently have a movie rub you the wrong way. That's fine. Really. There’s NO requirement for you to like every movie or like the same movies as everyone else. But you don't need to justify it. You don't need to convince other people who did enjoy it that it was really bad and they should feel bad about enjoying it. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah… let's not get into "character development" in Star Wars, because that's a deep, deep rabbit hole of suck. Lucas is many things, but a deep character writer he is not. </p><p></p><p></p><p>And yet you keep posting these long rants and starting new posts...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Based on what? </p><p>Abrams is being more secretive than usual with Episode IX. We don't even know the title and it's less than a year from release. (In comparison, the first Force Awakens teaser was out a little over a year-and-a-month before the release.)</p><p></p><p>If you're implying they're unhappy with TLJ that seems to fly in the face of reality. The film made a billion dollars. Johnson is still making a new trilogy. And 75-80% of the audience were really happy with the film. </p><p>Are you seriously suggesting Disney is going to do a 180 in response to 4% of the fanbase that is extra unhappy with TLJ? The tiny vocal minority that won't stop talking about how bad the film was because it had girls using lightsabers and Luke Skywalker not being a happy heroic Jedi god. </p><p></p><p></p><p>And the Holiday Special.</p><p>Plus the two Ewok films. </p><p>And <em>Solo</em>, which lost money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7562562, member: 37579"] I have learned from experience to never EVER watch videos by Star Wars fans about TLJ. Don't kid yourself. Rose is unpopular because she is a woman of colour. John Boyega was in every scene of that sideplot and no one harassed him off Twitter with uncountable death threats. That sideplot, which was all of 12 minutes and thus just 10% of the runtime, is actually pretty essential to the theme of the movie. It elevates the movie above almost every other Star Wars film, showing the actual people the rebellion is about as well as the growing legend of the resistance. It shows why Luke matters and why Luke's last stand was impressive. So… because you liked it, the horrible worldbuilding is forgivable. But because you disliked TLJ, the horrible worldbuilding it mostly inherited from TFA is a dealbreaker. As opposed to Han and Luke's masterpiece of a prison break? Anakin's rescue of Obi-Wan on Geonosa? Star Wars is full of plots and plans that fail spectacularly. Why is this one unforgivable? Again, you freely admit that the complaints that you are making about TLJ occur elsewhere but you give them a pass. You really need to stop. Just stop. Rewatch [i]The Last Jedi[/i] and do some introspective soul searching and decide what you didn't like about the movie and why. And you need to accept that it's okay to just not like a movie on a tonal level. To just inherently have a movie rub you the wrong way. That's fine. Really. There’s NO requirement for you to like every movie or like the same movies as everyone else. But you don't need to justify it. You don't need to convince other people who did enjoy it that it was really bad and they should feel bad about enjoying it. Yeah… let's not get into "character development" in Star Wars, because that's a deep, deep rabbit hole of suck. Lucas is many things, but a deep character writer he is not. And yet you keep posting these long rants and starting new posts... Based on what? Abrams is being more secretive than usual with Episode IX. We don't even know the title and it's less than a year from release. (In comparison, the first Force Awakens teaser was out a little over a year-and-a-month before the release.) If you're implying they're unhappy with TLJ that seems to fly in the face of reality. The film made a billion dollars. Johnson is still making a new trilogy. And 75-80% of the audience were really happy with the film. Are you seriously suggesting Disney is going to do a 180 in response to 4% of the fanbase that is extra unhappy with TLJ? The tiny vocal minority that won't stop talking about how bad the film was because it had girls using lightsabers and Luke Skywalker not being a happy heroic Jedi god. And the Holiday Special. Plus the two Ewok films. And [i]Solo[/i], which lost money. [/QUOTE]
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