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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 7564080" data-attributes="member: 87792">Luke in his first time in combat and his first time in an X-wing went up against professional elite pilots and kicked their asses while outflying almost all the experienced Rebel Alliance pilots. He then makes a literally impossible shot, turning off his targeting computer when Obi-Wan tells him to use the force.As for the lightsaber battle, if you watched then Darth Emo was kicking Rey's ass despite her being an experienced staff-fighter (established earlier in the story; there's far more textual evidence Rey could handle herself in melee in actual combat than that Rey had flown anything more than his speeder). And then he made a mistake - he told her to use the force at which point she called on the dark side of the force (seriously, look at her face during that scene - that isn't peace and serenity or other light side things) and was able to overcome what had previously been impossible for her. They both had help from a more experienced force user in order to pull off their huge thing at the end.The three big differences are that kicking Darth Emo's ass when he isn't using the force isn't that humanly impossible, being thrown in the deep end and swimming by having your mind invaded, then by force of will reversing it and seeing how to use the force from inside the head of a force user (as Rey did) is far more useful in learning to use the Force than poncing around with a blindfold against shock globes (which is about the equivalent of water wings in the baby pool), and her skills are legitimately gained with staff fighting (and she fought with the lightsaber as if it was a staff) rather than beyond professional in her first fight nonsense with an X-wing</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 7564080, member: 87792"] Luke in his first time in combat and his first time in an X-wing went up against professional elite pilots and kicked their asses while outflying almost all the experienced Rebel Alliance pilots. He then makes a literally impossible shot, turning off his targeting computer when Obi-Wan tells him to use the force. As for the lightsaber battle, if you watched then Darth Emo was kicking Rey's ass despite her being an experienced staff-fighter (established earlier in the story; there's far more textual evidence Rey could handle herself in melee in actual combat than that Rey had flown anything more than his speeder). And then he made a mistake - he told her to use the force at which point she called on the dark side of the force (seriously, look at her face during that scene - that isn't peace and serenity or other light side things) and was able to overcome what had previously been impossible for her. They both had help from a more experienced force user in order to pull off their huge thing at the end. The three big differences are that kicking Darth Emo's ass when he isn't using the force isn't that humanly impossible, being thrown in the deep end and swimming by having your mind invaded, then by force of will reversing it and seeing how to use the force from inside the head of a force user (as Rey did) is far more useful in learning to use the Force than poncing around with a blindfold against shock globes (which is about the equivalent of water wings in the baby pool), and her skills are legitimately gained with staff fighting (and she fought with the lightsaber as if it was a staff) rather than beyond professional in her first fight nonsense with an X-wing [/QUOTE]

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