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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6317065" data-attributes="member: 18">I agree, but that's not remotely a good comparison for what's going on here. This is a fundamentally different approach and both the 4E and 5E ways have advantages and disadvantages which do not match up well to each other. They're different game systems (despite the name) with different goals and different ways of achieving those goals. It's fine to prefer one, but it doesn't make much sense to directly compare them on points like ease of memorization. Because it's so different, trying to force the comparison and claim one is "better" smacks very much of edition war, which I think is worth avoiding.Whereas 5E is doing the same thing with essentially the same goals as 2/3E (1E is debatable), and it's a sound comparison there.</blockquote>