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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 8317005" data-attributes="member: 6716779">And never even seen one in action. &nbsp;One of my players said he might have a new recruit.&nbsp; Ok cool level 9 good aligned Drow campaign pick something appropriate. &nbsp;&nbsp;So this potential new player wants to roll stats. We just stopped doing that die to out of control powergamer who left and turns out they were ultra toxic. Kicked out of and banned from virtually every group including Warhammer. &nbsp; Potential new player had 3 ideas. Multiclass Ranger/MonkMulticlass paladin/sorcerer/warlock/bardMulticlass Bard/Warlock/PaladinI played every individual class but pointed out one of my rules is don't deliberately build a bad character. &nbsp;The hexblade of course was just a dip. Just like the last player where I okayed the hexblade but not the multiclass. &nbsp;This player seemed to want to quicken fireballs with these multiclass builds because by level 20 they will have level 7 spell slots........ &nbsp;Kinda explained the game isn't going to level 20 plan was level 12 but probably wrap it up soon at lvl 10/11. &nbsp;Player promptly didn't want to play anymore said I took the fun out of it. Fair enough.&nbsp; To me is just a disconnect between expectations. &nbsp;Tried helping him out with suggested builds eg Paladin6/Hexblade3 or 8/1 or a Sorlock. Being new I suggested to also keep it simple MCing can bite you in the ass. I have a cleric8/sorc1 and Rogue8/fighter1. &nbsp;So two back to back players basically wanting to abuse the Hexblade (one had 20 charisma, the other wanted to roll to see what they get). &nbsp;And the whole Drow thing. Party full of Elistraee's faith and they also wanted a fiendpack Tiefling. Didn't seem keen on the no pvp rule. Last player wanted to follow Lolth in said party.... &nbsp; So not sure if they were just new or potential powergamer with unrealistic expectations (by level 20). Out of the various local groups afaik I'm the only one running at level 9. The other groups tend to fall apart or run shorter games with 4 games vs my 2.&nbsp;Anyway just a rant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 8317005, member: 6716779"] And never even seen one in action. One of my players said he might have a new recruit. Ok cool level 9 good aligned Drow campaign pick something appropriate. So this potential new player wants to roll stats. We just stopped doing that die to out of control powergamer who left and turns out they were ultra toxic. Kicked out of and banned from virtually every group including Warhammer. Potential new player had 3 ideas. Multiclass Ranger/Monk Multiclass paladin/sorcerer/warlock/bard Multiclass Bard/Warlock/Paladin I played every individual class but pointed out one of my rules is don't deliberately build a bad character. The hexblade of course was just a dip. Just like the last player where I okayed the hexblade but not the multiclass. This player seemed to want to quicken fireballs with these multiclass builds because by level 20 they will have level 7 spell slots........ Kinda explained the game isn't going to level 20 plan was level 12 but probably wrap it up soon at lvl 10/11. Player promptly didn't want to play anymore said I took the fun out of it. Fair enough. To me is just a disconnect between expectations. Tried helping him out with suggested builds eg Paladin6/Hexblade3 or 8/1 or a Sorlock. Being new I suggested to also keep it simple MCing can bite you in the ass. I have a cleric8/sorc1 and Rogue8/fighter1. So two back to back players basically wanting to abuse the Hexblade (one had 20 charisma, the other wanted to roll to see what they get). And the whole Drow thing. Party full of Elistraee's faith and they also wanted a fiendpack Tiefling. Didn't seem keen on the no pvp rule. Last player wanted to follow Lolth in said party.... So not sure if they were just new or potential powergamer with unrealistic expectations (by level 20). Out of the various local groups afaik I'm the only one running at level 9. The other groups tend to fall apart or run shorter games with 4 games vs my 2. Anyway just a rant. [/QUOTE]

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