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<blockquote data-quote="Theo R Cwithin" data-source="post: 5408779" data-attributes="member: 75712"><p>Great idea! I wholeheartedly approve of awakened potatoes.</p><p></p><p>As a playable race, that might be kind of tough, though what you've got sounds like a good start for a familiar or something. Well, I'd have to think a bit more about it to give more useful info. But here are a few things off the top of my head:</p><p></p><p>- By RAW, I don't think a potato can be awakened, not with the Awaken spell anyway; But if the GM is cool with it, good!</p><p></p><p>For the monster version:</p><p>- looks like you used the Awaken spell as the starting point. That seems a good a place to start, though it leads to a few inconsistencies. The obvious one atm is that Plant type uses d8 for HD, not d10</p><p>- the +20 disguise while hiding underground seems unnecessary to me. I'd probably make it a +8 or +12 racial bonus when hiding on the ground &/or among vegetation, on salad bars, or something like that.</p><p>- just my get feeling, but I'd be inclined to give it speed of something like 20ft, and a burrow speed of 20ft.-- mainly only because I have a hard time envisioning a potato moving that fast. Or really moving at all, really, but that's beside the point. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> If it gets a burrow speed, you might also consider giving it tremorsense.</p><p>- another suggestion is to ditch the awaken spell rules and animated object stats entirely, and just tweak an existing small-ish plant monster. There are vegepygmies and myconids that could be "downsized" to tiny size quite easily with the <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/improvingMonsters.htm#sizeIncreases" target="_blank">size change rules</a> (in reverse), as well as handful of others that are already tiny, like the CC <a href="http://www.enworld.org/cc/converted/plant/mandragora.htm" target="_blank">mandragora</a>.</p><p></p><p>For the character race:</p><p>I don't have much experience building up a playable race from scratch, so take this with a grain of salt. Hopefully someone else with better insight will respond. The following is mostly just potential problms I see, with little in the way of solutions...</p><p>- The Tiny size, Plant type and darkvision give it a quite a few hefty advantages with respect to poison, mind effects, breathing, critical hits, and so on. So there probably ought to be some significant ability score offsets, like STR-4, amybe CHA-2 or something. Not sure exactly what or how much, though. (That's another reason I suggested giving it a slow-ish speed, btw.)</p><p>- An obvious problem with using a potato as a race is that it doesn't seem to be able to use weapons, wear armor, or have body slots. This has big implications for power advancement. Can it use wield a +2 flaming sickle and a dragon hide shield?</p><p>- Additionally, you ought to explicitly resolve how it manipulates thing, speaks, and so on (especially for purposes of spell casting): Does it have leafy tendrils as hands? Does it speak out a mouth or by rustling leaves? This is important in game when determining how it resists things like a silence spell or being tied up and gagged. Since, as a monster, the first thing I would think is "I'd better tie up and gag that potato, because it might hurt me!" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>- Because Druid is its favored class, you'll have to think about what it means to Wildshape; in its case, Wildshaping into a small or medium creature is potentially a huge power boost, relative to the boost received by a medium druid Wildshaping into the same form. Ditto for the animal companion, or familiars for arcane casters.</p><p></p><p>Well, that's a bit much for now. If I think of anything else, I'll post. Good luck with this, it sounds fun! Let us know the final results.</p><p></p><p>Also, just because I am weak, I leave you with this... </p><p>[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPsY_nhTtxg"]YouTube - Baked potatoes - Shooting Stars - BBC comedy[/ame]</p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Theo R Cwithin, post: 5408779, member: 75712"] Great idea! I wholeheartedly approve of awakened potatoes. As a playable race, that might be kind of tough, though what you've got sounds like a good start for a familiar or something. Well, I'd have to think a bit more about it to give more useful info. But here are a few things off the top of my head: - By RAW, I don't think a potato can be awakened, not with the Awaken spell anyway; But if the GM is cool with it, good! For the monster version: - looks like you used the Awaken spell as the starting point. That seems a good a place to start, though it leads to a few inconsistencies. The obvious one atm is that Plant type uses d8 for HD, not d10 - the +20 disguise while hiding underground seems unnecessary to me. I'd probably make it a +8 or +12 racial bonus when hiding on the ground &/or among vegetation, on salad bars, or something like that. - just my get feeling, but I'd be inclined to give it speed of something like 20ft, and a burrow speed of 20ft.-- mainly only because I have a hard time envisioning a potato moving that fast. Or really moving at all, really, but that's beside the point. ;) If it gets a burrow speed, you might also consider giving it tremorsense. - another suggestion is to ditch the awaken spell rules and animated object stats entirely, and just tweak an existing small-ish plant monster. There are vegepygmies and myconids that could be "downsized" to tiny size quite easily with the [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/improvingMonsters.htm#sizeIncreases"]size change rules[/URL] (in reverse), as well as handful of others that are already tiny, like the CC [URL="http://www.enworld.org/cc/converted/plant/mandragora.htm"]mandragora[/URL]. For the character race: I don't have much experience building up a playable race from scratch, so take this with a grain of salt. Hopefully someone else with better insight will respond. The following is mostly just potential problms I see, with little in the way of solutions... - The Tiny size, Plant type and darkvision give it a quite a few hefty advantages with respect to poison, mind effects, breathing, critical hits, and so on. So there probably ought to be some significant ability score offsets, like STR-4, amybe CHA-2 or something. Not sure exactly what or how much, though. (That's another reason I suggested giving it a slow-ish speed, btw.) - An obvious problem with using a potato as a race is that it doesn't seem to be able to use weapons, wear armor, or have body slots. This has big implications for power advancement. Can it use wield a +2 flaming sickle and a dragon hide shield? - Additionally, you ought to explicitly resolve how it manipulates thing, speaks, and so on (especially for purposes of spell casting): Does it have leafy tendrils as hands? Does it speak out a mouth or by rustling leaves? This is important in game when determining how it resists things like a silence spell or being tied up and gagged. Since, as a monster, the first thing I would think is "I'd better tie up and gag that potato, because it might hurt me!" ;) - Because Druid is its favored class, you'll have to think about what it means to Wildshape; in its case, Wildshaping into a small or medium creature is potentially a huge power boost, relative to the boost received by a medium druid Wildshaping into the same form. Ditto for the animal companion, or familiars for arcane casters. Well, that's a bit much for now. If I think of anything else, I'll post. Good luck with this, it sounds fun! Let us know the final results. Also, just because I am weak, I leave you with this... [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPsY_nhTtxg"]YouTube - Baked potatoes - Shooting Stars - BBC comedy[/ame] ;) [/QUOTE]
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