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<blockquote data-quote="PierreBlind" data-source="post: 4349691" data-attributes="member: 71106">In the rules, usualy a stealth check is not to hide, it is to remain hidden.In the RAW, stealth in combat can be used to avoid being noticed, not to hide yourself.The only easy way i know to hide myself in combat is a bluff check (and you need cover or concealment to remain unoticed), once per encounter.One&nbsp; &quot;logic&quot; other way is with superior concealment : you are clearly invisible to the target, you might apply the &quot;invisible&quot; rules while in the superior concealment.&nbsp; You are hidden and may move in normal concealment with Stealth check to remain hidden.The problem is with the &quot;normal&quot; concealment.&nbsp; I don't think you can hide yourself with only a normal concealment (small fog for instance) in combat.Logic : you see someone in the small fog who is firing at you, there is no way you can lose sight of him unless you are distracted (or unless the small fog become a big fog with superior concealment).Playability : fight with kobold in obscurity might become a nightmare.The thing that makes me think i may be wrong is the rulebook which says (p 188): &quot;Failure: You can’t try again unless observersbecome distracted or you manage to obtain cover orconcealment.&quot;I think (hope) it may be an error (i think it should have been &quot;superior cover or superior concealment&quot; to retry a stealth check).I think we need an official ruling on that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="PierreBlind, post: 4349691, member: 71106"] In the rules, usualy a stealth check is not to hide, it is to remain hidden. In the RAW, stealth in combat can be used to avoid being noticed, not to hide yourself. The only easy way i know to hide myself in combat is a bluff check (and you need cover or concealment to remain unoticed), once per encounter. One "logic" other way is with superior concealment : you are clearly invisible to the target, you might apply the "invisible" rules while in the superior concealment. You are hidden and may move in normal concealment with Stealth check to remain hidden. The problem is with the "normal" concealment. I don't think you can hide yourself with only a normal concealment (small fog for instance) in combat. Logic : you see someone in the small fog who is firing at you, there is no way you can lose sight of him unless you are distracted (or unless the small fog become a big fog with superior concealment). Playability : fight with kobold in obscurity might become a nightmare. The thing that makes me think i may be wrong is the rulebook which says (p 188): [I] "Failure: You can’t try again unless observers become distracted or you manage to obtain cover or concealment." [/I]I think (hope) it may be an error (i think it should have been "superior cover or superior concealment" to retry a stealth check). I think we need an official ruling on that. [/QUOTE]

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