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<blockquote data-quote="ozziewolf" data-source="post: 4292823" data-attributes="member: 64443">I wasn't planning on posting again but this has me curious.To Volabit: Can you quote where it says you can't hide behind an ally that is providing you cover?I read both pages you quoted 280 and 281 and neither makes any distinction on what kind of cover isn't included in making stealth rules.&nbsp; The book is written on an exception basis so one can only assume that unless they specifically state that you can't then you must be able to.The only part of those two pages which apply is as follows:It clearly doesn't state what you're claiming it does.&nbsp; It does state further up the page about range cover and that it doesn't apply when a target is in melee range.&nbsp; However if the target is at range he does have cover. I'm not saying this is good or bad just how it's written.&nbsp; I think for the most part every one feels it should be interpretted other than how it's actually written.If you're going to include pages as your source material please make sure it actually backs up what you're saying before attacking others for not doing the same.&nbsp; In my opinion giving pages and stating your right is worse than not including pages and stating the information provided in them.&nbsp; Your posts are very inflammatory towards Xorn as well as Sanzuo. (Border line personal attacks if not full out personal attacks.)&nbsp; Wether or not you're doing so intentionally doesn't matter as that is how it's being interpretted. As far as Xorn not knowing the books I can safely say he's probably one of the most knowledgable person regarding the rules that I know as he's been play testing it for almost 6 months now and he's read the book cover to cover more than once.&nbsp; Needless to say if I have questions about the rules he's the go to guy.&nbsp; He's not always 100% on in his interpretations but he's willing to listen and reevaluate his interpretations as more information is presented to him or pointed out to him.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ozziewolf, post: 4292823, member: 64443"] I wasn't planning on posting again but this has me curious. To Volabit: Can you quote where it says you can't hide behind an ally that is providing you cover? I read both pages you quoted 280 and 281 and neither makes any distinction on what kind of cover isn't included in making stealth rules. The book is written on an exception basis so one can only assume that unless they specifically state that you can't then you must be able to. The only part of those two pages which apply is as follows: It clearly doesn't state what you're claiming it does. It does state further up the page about range cover and that it doesn't apply when a target is in melee range. However if the target is at range he does have cover. I'm not saying this is good or bad just how it's written. I think for the most part every one feels it should be interpretted other than how it's actually written. If you're going to include pages as your source material please make sure it actually backs up what you're saying before attacking others for not doing the same. In my opinion giving pages and stating your right is worse than not including pages and stating the information provided in them. Your posts are very inflammatory towards Xorn as well as Sanzuo. (Border line personal attacks if not full out personal attacks.) Wether or not you're doing so intentionally doesn't matter as that is how it's being interpretted. As far as Xorn not knowing the books I can safely say he's probably one of the most knowledgable person regarding the rules that I know as he's been play testing it for almost 6 months now and he's read the book cover to cover more than once. Needless to say if I have questions about the rules he's the go to guy. He's not always 100% on in his interpretations but he's willing to listen and reevaluate his interpretations as more information is presented to him or pointed out to him. [/QUOTE]

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