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<blockquote data-quote="bardolph" data-source="post: 4330822" data-attributes="member: 2304"><p>No. She is considered hidden because she is already hidden. Yes, she gains combat advantage, but the attack is not "stealthy" and once she attacks she is no longer hidden.</p><p></p><p>PHB, p188: "Success: You avoid notice, unheard and hidden from view. If you later attack or shout, you're no longer hidden."</p><p></p><p></p><p>As above, the attack itself cannot be stealthy. However, her crawl action can be "stealthy," and note that she gets a -5 to her roll if she moves more than 2 squares.</p><p></p><p>Note that some <em>monsters</em> have the "Sniper Fire" ability, which allows them to remain hidden if they miss a ranged attack. However, this is not a character ability.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Her attack has combat advantage against the goblin, but she also has a -2 to her attack due to firing while prone.</p><p></p><p>The goblin can then attack her with his readied action, because she broke her stealth when she attacked. Then, during the goblin's turn, he can move adjacent to her, and use a melee weapon to attack her with combat advantage, since she is prone.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. Also remember that standing up is a move action, and if the goblin is adjacent (as he would be in my example above), moving away would provoke an Opportunity Attack.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. However, her opponents would presumably know which square she's in, even if she is hidden.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Hope this helps.</p><p></p><p>===============</p><p></p><p>PS: Regarding using allies to gain cover and roll Stealth, the answer is "no."</p><p></p><p>PHB p 290: "When you make a ranged attack against an enemy and other enemies are in the way, your target has cover."</p><p></p><p>This means that the cover ONLY applies during the ATTACKER's turn, <em>when they attack you,</em> and therefore you cannot duck behind your friend and make a stealth roll, since on your own turn your ally does not count as cover.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bardolph, post: 4330822, member: 2304"] No. She is considered hidden because she is already hidden. Yes, she gains combat advantage, but the attack is not "stealthy" and once she attacks she is no longer hidden. PHB, p188: "Success: You avoid notice, unheard and hidden from view. If you later attack or shout, you're no longer hidden." As above, the attack itself cannot be stealthy. However, her crawl action can be "stealthy," and note that she gets a -5 to her roll if she moves more than 2 squares. Note that some [i]monsters[/i] have the "Sniper Fire" ability, which allows them to remain hidden if they miss a ranged attack. However, this is not a character ability. Her attack has combat advantage against the goblin, but she also has a -2 to her attack due to firing while prone. The goblin can then attack her with his readied action, because she broke her stealth when she attacked. Then, during the goblin's turn, he can move adjacent to her, and use a melee weapon to attack her with combat advantage, since she is prone. Yes. Also remember that standing up is a move action, and if the goblin is adjacent (as he would be in my example above), moving away would provoke an Opportunity Attack. Yes. However, her opponents would presumably know which square she's in, even if she is hidden. Hope this helps. =============== PS: Regarding using allies to gain cover and roll Stealth, the answer is "no." PHB p 290: "When you make a ranged attack against an enemy and other enemies are in the way, your target has cover." This means that the cover ONLY applies during the ATTACKER's turn, [i]when they attack you,[/i] and therefore you cannot duck behind your friend and make a stealth roll, since on your own turn your ally does not count as cover. [/QUOTE]
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