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<blockquote data-quote="threegee" data-source="post: 4334161" data-attributes="member: 33471">This thread involves a whole lot of people making things up. I prefer to discuss the rules as written, which generally precludes caring what the CSRs have to say. However, thinking about their varying responses raised a question in my mind: at what point does stealth play a role in the associated action? Using stealth is not-an-action because it is part of another action, but when does it happen? At the beginning? At the end? Somewhere in the middle?It seems to me that the CSR responses may assume that the effects of stealth come into play after the action. Stealth as part of an attack is meaningless because a character cannot be hidden following an attack. Therefore, a move action involving stealth would be the most logical predecessor to an attack. On the other hand, certain responses imply that stealth can be part of an attack action, so milage may vary.Regardless, I believe part of understanding stealth fully involves knowing whether the benefits come into play before, during, or after the main part of the action.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="threegee, post: 4334161, member: 33471"] This thread involves a whole lot of people making things up. I prefer to discuss the rules as written, which generally precludes caring what the CSRs have to say. However, thinking about their varying responses raised a question in my mind: at what point does stealth play a role in the associated action? Using stealth is not-an-action because it is part of another action, but when does it happen? At the beginning? At the end? Somewhere in the middle? It seems to me that the CSR responses may assume that the effects of stealth come into play [i]after[/i] the action. Stealth as part of an attack is meaningless because a character cannot be hidden following an attack. Therefore, a move action involving stealth would be the most logical predecessor to an attack. On the other hand, certain responses imply that stealth can be part of an attack action, so milage may vary. Regardless, I believe part of understanding stealth fully involves knowing whether the benefits come into play before, during, or after the main part of the action. [/QUOTE]

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