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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xyl" data-source="post: 4350359" data-attributes="member: 55828">Let's start from what we know.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A stealth check is made as part of an action, and covers that action.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It's possible to get ongoing stealth.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ongoing stealth ends if you don't have cover or concealment.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ongoing stealth ends if you attack or shout.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It's possible to get make an attack stealthily. (Otherwise, the ability of some monsters to keep stealth after missing an attack would be useless.)</li> </ul>The logical synthesis of those tidbits is that a stealth check must do two things. First, it must hide a single action (a move, an attack, or anything else). Second, it must give you ongoing stealth in at least some cases. The rules, unfortunately, are silent on when you get ongoing stealth. It's obvious that an attack can't give you ongoing stealth. On the other hand, not having ongoing stealth after moving would defeat the purpose of stealth. So there are some cases that the rules cover, and some that they don't:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Making a Stealth check as part of a move action gives you stealth for the duration of the action and afterwards.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Making a Stealth check as part of an attack gives you stealth for the duration of the action, but not afterwards.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Making a Stealth check as part of any other action gives you stealth for the duration of the action... and possibly afterwards, it's not clear.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It's also not clear if ongoing stealth will last long enough to make an attack, or if you need to make a separate Stealth check as part of the attack.</li> </ul>Personally, I'm ruling that you only get ongoing stealth if you move, and that the stealth doesn't apply to an attack unless you make a Stealth check as part of the attack. I can see the argument for allowing attacks to keep ongoing stealth until the end, though.</blockquote>

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