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<blockquote data-quote="DM_Blake" data-source="post: 4353167" data-attributes="member: 57267">The flaw here is that you would allow everyone two chances to have stealth during an attack.&nbsp;Example:&nbsp;I move behind a tree. Roll for stealth. I then attack, hoping to have stealth for combat advantage. I can now roll for stealth on the attack.&nbsp;If you rule that my first roll for stealth gives me &quot;ongoing stealth&quot; that applies to my attack, then I have a decision to make: was my stealth roll really good? If it was, no need to make a stealth roll during my attack since I know I have &quot;ongoing stealth&quot; and will have a great chance to get combat advantage. But if my stealth roll was a bad roll, then I simply announce that I'm attempting to attack stealthily and make a new stealth roll for my attack option.&nbsp;Two chances to get a good stealth roll, and either one can grant me combat advantage.&nbsp;I don't think the RAI ever meant to grant everyone two chances at stealthy combat advantage.&nbsp;I think the only reasonable ruling here is that if you announce you are going to attack, you automatically forego any &quot;ongoing stealth&quot;. Because this is an attack, and because the PHB says attacks break stealth, your attack breaks your &quot;ongoing stealth&quot; automatically.&nbsp;You can, of course, attempt to attack stealthily, following the RAW and the RAI, by including a stealth roll with your attack action.&nbsp;This way, only the stealth roll during the attack action can determine whether the attack is a stealthy one deserving combat advantage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DM_Blake, post: 4353167, member: 57267"] The flaw here is that you would allow everyone two chances to have stealth during an attack. Example: I move behind a tree. Roll for stealth. I then attack, hoping to have stealth for combat advantage. I can now roll for stealth on the attack. If you rule that my first roll for stealth gives me "ongoing stealth" that applies to my attack, then I have a decision to make: was my stealth roll really good? If it was, no need to make a stealth roll during my attack since I know I have "ongoing stealth" and will have a great chance to get combat advantage. But if my stealth roll was a bad roll, then I simply announce that I'm attempting to attack stealthily and make a new stealth roll for my attack option. Two chances to get a good stealth roll, and either one can grant me combat advantage. I don't think the RAI ever meant to grant everyone two chances at stealthy combat advantage. I think the only reasonable ruling here is that if you announce you are going to attack, you automatically forego any "ongoing stealth". Because this is an attack, and because the PHB says attacks break stealth, your attack breaks your "ongoing stealth" automatically. You can, of course, attempt to attack stealthily, following the RAW and the RAI, by including a stealth roll with your attack action. This way, only the stealth roll during the attack action can determine whether the attack is a stealthy one deserving combat advantage. [/QUOTE]

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