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<blockquote data-quote="Roxlimn" data-source="post: 4354879" data-attributes="member: 11878">A Ranged Rogue would probably benefit greatly from his allies being able to inflict the Daze, blinded, or stun status effects, to have the opponents grant combat advantage.&nbsp; It seems only fair that a Ranged Rogue who doesn't risk getting attacked by close range attacks would have a harder time getting damage in.Xorn:Actually the entry that really got me thinking was Line of Sight rules.Under &quot;Seeing and Targeting,&quot; the rules say:Line of Sight: The first question is what you can see in an encounterarea—that is, what is in your line of sight.&nbsp; To determine whether you can see a target, pick a corner of your space and trace an imaginary line from that corner to any part of the target’s space. You can see the target if at least one line doesn’t pass through or touch an object or an effect—such as a wall, a thick curtain, or a cloud of fog—that blocks your vision.That is, a creature who has concealment doesn't get to block Line of Sight.&nbsp; For that matter, Stealth doesn't say that either.&nbsp; The use of Stealth accesses neither Total Concealment, Invisibility, nor Line of Sight.&nbsp; If it was meant to make you unseeable, you'd think it would reference any of these rules.&nbsp; It does not.There ARE powers that block line of sight.&nbsp; There are powers that say they grant total concealment or block line of sight.&nbsp; There are even powers that just say &quot;enemies cannot see you,&quot; and that's pretty specific to the phrase &quot;cannot see you.&quot;Stealth doesn't say any of that, where it should have, if it was meant to access such rules.I would say that if you wanted to use Stealth to regain enemy unawareness, you would first have to break Line of Sight, then you can use Stealth to move into an area with Concealment and remain hidden.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Roxlimn, post: 4354879, member: 11878"] A Ranged Rogue would probably benefit greatly from his allies being able to inflict the Daze, blinded, or stun status effects, to have the opponents grant combat advantage. It seems only fair that a Ranged Rogue who doesn't risk getting attacked by close range attacks would have a harder time getting damage in. [b]Xorn:[/b] Actually the entry that really got me thinking was Line of Sight rules. Under "Seeing and Targeting," the rules say: Line of Sight: The first question is what you can see in an encounter area—that is, what is in your line of sight. To determine whether you can see a target, pick a corner of your space and trace an imaginary line from that corner to any part of the target’s space. You can see the target if at least one line doesn’t pass through or touch an object or an effect—such as a wall, a thick curtain, or a cloud of fog—that blocks your vision. That is, a creature who has concealment doesn't get to block Line of Sight. For that matter, Stealth doesn't say that either. The use of Stealth accesses neither Total Concealment, Invisibility, nor Line of Sight. If it was meant to make you unseeable, you'd think it would reference any of these rules. It does not. There ARE powers that block line of sight. There are powers that say they grant total concealment or block line of sight. There are even powers that just say "enemies cannot see you," and that's pretty specific to the phrase "cannot see you." Stealth doesn't say any of that, where it should have, if it was meant to access such rules. I would say that if you wanted to use Stealth to regain enemy unawareness, you would first have to break Line of Sight, then you can use Stealth to move into an area with Concealment and remain hidden. [/QUOTE]

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