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<blockquote data-quote="the_redbeard" data-source="post: 4356717" data-attributes="member: 22644">Mechanically it might not make a difference.&nbsp; Either way:&nbsp; You don't know where they are.If you knew they were out there, you don't forget that they are out there - but you're not sure where.I think a lot of the confusion is due to the list of different items for success and the lack of precise definition of them.I think the success status has a list because stealth can mean different things in different situations.The stealth success: avoid notice, unheard and hidden from view.I've always read &quot;hidden from view&quot; as unseen.Others read it as ... well, I don't understand how people read &quot;hidden from view&quot; as still being seen, but not perceived.&nbsp; This is not a jedi mind trick skill.Avoid notice certainly means to not be perceived.Examples of - Hidden from view:If you're stealthing in shadows:&nbsp; you slip into the shadows and you are indistinguishable from the darkness.&nbsp; You're unseen.Unheard:If you're trying to walk silently past a sleeping guard:&nbsp; you step quietly.Avoid Notice:If you're trying to melt into a crowd:&nbsp; the guards looking for someone of your description in the crowd can't find you amongst the sea of faces.Those are all uses of the stealth skill but each fits different aspects of the success status.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="the_redbeard, post: 4356717, member: 22644"] Mechanically it might not make a difference. Either way: You don't know where they are. If you knew they were out there, you don't forget that they are out there - but you're not sure where. I think a lot of the confusion is due to the list of different items for success and the lack of precise definition of them. I think the success status has a list because stealth can mean different things in different situations. The stealth success: avoid notice, unheard and hidden from view. I've always read "hidden from view" as unseen. Others read it as ... well, I don't understand how people read "hidden from view" as still being seen, but not perceived. This is not a jedi mind trick skill. Avoid notice certainly means to not be perceived. Examples of - Hidden from view: If you're stealthing in shadows: you slip into the shadows and you are indistinguishable from the darkness. You're unseen. Unheard: If you're trying to walk silently past a sleeping guard: you step quietly. Avoid Notice: If you're trying to melt into a crowd: the guards looking for someone of your description in the crowd can't find you amongst the sea of faces. Those are all uses of the stealth skill but each fits different aspects of the success status. [/QUOTE]

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