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<blockquote data-quote="Tonester" data-source="post: 4358731" data-attributes="member: 71788">After I went through (a few posts back) and read all of your posts, I think you and I are on the same page.&nbsp; The DM still has to do a good job of going, &quot;Um.... no, that isn't good enough for a stealth check buddy.&quot; but I just want to ensure DMs are doing so within the NEW scope of CA and Stealth and Strikers.... not aren't stuck in some 3x mindset.However, the concerns about defense (which seems to be your last beef with 4e stealth) is a legitimate one.But, given as many deaths (well, near deaths) that I've seen... being pushed into slime pits, being glued (immobilized... unable to stealth), etc... I'd say the axe definitely falls both ways in 4e; what is good for the goose is good for the gander.Once DMs realize what players can do, I have a feeling monsters will begin to realize too <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tonester, post: 4358731, member: 71788"] After I went through (a few posts back) and read all of your posts, I think you and I are on the same page. The DM still has to do a good job of going, "Um.... no, that isn't good enough for a stealth check buddy." but I just want to ensure DMs are doing so within the NEW scope of CA and Stealth and Strikers.... not aren't stuck in some 3x mindset. However, the concerns about defense (which seems to be your last beef with 4e stealth) is a legitimate one. But, given as many deaths (well, near deaths) that I've seen... being pushed into slime pits, being glued (immobilized... unable to stealth), etc... I'd say the axe definitely falls both ways in 4e; what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Once DMs realize what players can do, I have a feeling monsters will begin to realize too ;) [/QUOTE]

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