Steampunk "primer"?

The restored Metropolis was released today, unfortunately, the closest theater is in Boston. :(

25 minutes recovered, still leaving it 5 minutes short of its intended length, but much better than the butchered American release, which had previously been the only cuts available at all.

The Auld Grump
 

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Now, it may boggle some minds, but since the Victorian era is technically the period of Queen Victoria's reign from June 1837 until her death on the 22nd of January 1901, that encapsulates the majority of what we think of as the era of the "Wild West" in America.

Thus, "weird West" fiction, such as found in TV series like "Wild, Wild West", "The Adventures of Briscoe County, Jr.", Kurt R.A. Giambastiani's Fallen Cloud novels, and even movies like The Valley of Gwangi would fit nicely on the American side of a world with steampunk sensibilities. They are, essentially, steampunk set in America.
Not really. Steampunk needs an element of steam-powered technology run somewhat amok. It needs a vibe of urban dystopia, a 19th century version of cyberpunk.

Steampunk isn't just defined by the era it emulates, and weird west fiction isn't by default steampunk.

Or to put it another way - child labor in Boston c. 1863 is steampunk, Jesse James with a Gatling gun, not so much.... :) Either dystopia or cacatopia would work, I think, it is the breakdown of society, not the direction that it takes.

And an excellent resource in a new look at science and consequences - [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Map-Londons-Terrifying-Epidemic/dp/1594482691/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275681638&sr=8-1]The Ghost Map[/ame] - charting London's Cholera epidemic, and how two men forever changed the means of tracking the disease to its source. An excellent, excellent book.

Mind you, I am as fond of Edisonades and Vernesian fantasy as well as true steampunk - Weird West can come under the Edisonades, and has since The Steam Man of the Prairies back in 1868. :)

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I wasn't saying that "Weird Westerns" = Steampunk, just that they involve the same chronological period and have overlapping tech, and as such, elements of such stories would not be out of place in a Steampunk campaign. And given the "positive" worldview of America in general at the time, its not inconceivable that the America of that world might be a bit more utopian than the Europe of the same time frame. It was, after all, one of the main differences between the RW American West and Europe of that time.

In addition, because of the overlap, it would also make for an easy alteration to make the Weird West more steampunk in nature. After all, you had the great expansion of the American railroad system with deplorable treatment of the black slave and Chinese workers that is no less dark than the streets of London. And its not like the Old west was all tiny towns- there's nothing stopping you from having a Weird West/Steampunk fusion campaign or story arc taking place in St. Louis, KC or San Francisco, for instance.

Perhaps Jesse James, dissatisfied with the Gatling Gun, goes to Colorado Springs to kidnap Nicola Tesla in order to get himself a Lightning Gun and some mechanical resonators to bust open bank vaults. (Or, as per The Prestige, a teleporter?)

Or what about some of those western boom towns? I could easily imagine a steampunk take on Cybermen, for instance, trying to take out a mining village during the 1849 California Gold Rush...
 
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I wasn't saying that "Weird Westerns" = Steampunk, just that they involve the same chronological period and have overlapping tech, and as such, elements of such stories would not be out of place in a Steampunk campaign. And given the "positive" worldview of America in general at the time, its not inconceivable that the America of that world might be a bit more utopian than the Europe of the same time frame. It was, after all, one of the main differences between the RW American West and Europe of that time.

In addition, because of the overlap, it would also make for an easy alteration to make the Weird West more steampunk in nature. After all, you had the great expansion of the American railroad system with deplorable treatment of the black slave and Chinese workers that is no less dark than the streets of London. And its not like the Old west was all tiny towns- there's nothing stopping you from having a Weird West/Steampunk fusion campaign or story arc taking place in St. Louis, KC or San Francisco, for instance.

Perhaps Jesse James, dissatisfied with the Gatling Gun, goes to Colorado Springs to kidnap Nicola Tesla in order to get himself a Lightning Gun and some mechanical resonators to bust open bank vaults. (Or, as per The Prestige, a teleporter?)

Or what about some of those western boom towns? I could easily imagine a steampunk take on Cybermen, for instance, trying to take out a mining village during the 1849 California Gold Rush...
Heh - I have no problem with crossing Weird West with Steampunk - and there are plenty of dystopian themes in the US - from the treatment of immigrants, to child labor, to what amounted to indentured servitude by the coal mines. For the Chinese... Drum Camp was a horror story. For that matter, the policy of Manifest Destiny is pretty dystopian in its own right.

Have you ever read Devil's Tower and its sequel Devil's Engine by Mark Summer? The second has Jay Gould as the villain. 19th Century American industrialists were hardly free of tyrannical abuse of power.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebm0GMXzdXA]Jay Gould's Daughter[/ame]

Nicolai Tesla is the patron saint of mad scientists. :) I also have a soft spot in my heart for Diesel, I used his possible assassination as a theme in one of my steampunk games.

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Heh - I have no problem with crossing Weird West with Steampunk - and there are plenty of dystopian themes in the US - from the treatment of immigrants, to child labor, to what amounted to indentured servitude by the coal mines. For the Chinese... Drum Camp was a horror story. For that matter, the policy of Manifest Destiny is pretty dystopian in its own right.

Yep, you got that right...and lets' not forget what the White Man's Burden meant to the world...

Have you ever read Devil's Tower and its sequel Devil's Engine by Mark Summer? The second has Jay Gould as the villain. 19th Century American industrialists were hardly free of tyrannical abuse of power.
Can't say that I have.

Nicolai Tesla is the patron saint of mad scientists. :)

I chose him in particular because of his theories of mechanical resonance and death rays/wireless transmission of power

I also have a soft spot in my heart for Diesel, I used his possible assassination as a theme in one of my steampunk games.

Tell us more!
 

Yep, you got that right...and lets' not forget what the White Man's Burden meant to the world...[/url] Or, why I have such mixed feelings about enjoying Rudyard Kipling. (And yes, my girlfriend once used the classic response to my asking her 'Do you like Kipling' :p )

Another factor, which I forgot to mention, is the beginning of the labor movement - unions, including the UMWA and the Wobblies, as well as groups such as the Molly Maguires and the beginnings of the Socialist and Anarchist movements.

Tell us more! [In regards to Rudolf Diesel]
In my campaign WWI has the potential to begin early - shortly after the suicide (or assassination) of Rudolf Diesel. The PCs also have the opportunity to prevent the war, both in it's potential 1913 incarnation, and the real world version that began in Sarajevo.

The first is based on a simple war of conquest, with Willhelm II eying his late grandmother's holdings in India, resulting in a three way war between Germany, Russia, and Great Britain, with opportunistic attacks by the natives on all three major sides. (This begins as a cold war, heating up in 1915.) Diesel was leaving Germany in part because he wanted no part of Willhelm's plans of conquest. (This may in fact be true - there are a lot of conspiracy theories surrounding Diesel's death.) The intent was to move all facilities to Great Britain, and to publicize Willhelm's interest in the Diesel engine for war like purposes.

Because I wanted a pulpier flavor than reality, I gave both Germany and Great Britain premature tanks, with German mad scientists working on a burrowing troop carrier, powered by one of Diesel's engines*. the intent was to use gas shells, followed by the subterranean assault.

It is possible that this model may have influenced my choice of assault....
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At least some of the team just happens to be on the Dresden when Diesel disappears - the PCs do have a narrow window of opportunity to prevent his death. Not, perhaps, likely, but they do have the opportunity.

The second is the classic fuster cluck starting in Sarajevo that led to the death of a generation. (Oh, ye cods and lesser fishies! WWI was so damned stupid! :.-( )

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* Diesel is one of my heroes - not too terribly long ago I tried to explain to a Green that the 'brand new' idea of bio-Diesel was in fact Diesel's goal from the beginning. The first Diesel engine ran on peanut oil....
 
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As I said elsewhen:

Dwarven land-pirates in a tunneling machine.

Man, how cool would that be?
I got 3 words for ya- GIANT CLOCKWORK BULETTE!

(Sorry, no link- I just made that up.)

Make it big enough, and it can be captained by Prince Nemor*, a dwarven inventor turned privateer, fighting a private little war against the nations of the surface world.

*The name is a combination of Captain Nemo of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (by Jules Verne) and Prince Namor, the Sub Mariner (Marvel Comics character).

PS: paint it white for a Moby Dick homage...
 

I got 3 words for ya- GIANT CLOCKWORK BULETTE!

(Sorry, no link- I just made that up.)

Make it big enough, and it can be captained by Prince Nemor*, a dwarven inventor turned privateer, fighting a private little war against the nations of the surface world.

*The name is a combination of Captain Nemo of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (by Jules Verne) and Prince Namor, the Sub Mariner (Marvel Comics character).

PS: paint it white for a Moby Dick homage...
Well, now you have a link to the model at least. :lol:

My intent is to build a large number of those buggers, including some that are unfinished... in a factory. Give the team a good opportunity for sabotage. :) Being manufactured by Kruppe, with Diesel engines. Burrowing is painfully slow, but much faster than, say, the tunnel boring machines used for creating the Chunnel. Maybe five miles a day. (And heaven's help for any of the troopers on board that has gas... his fellows will kill him. :p )

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"Mein gott in Himmel- HANS!"*cough*"Not AGAIN! Who"*gasp*"Who gave him verdammt sauerkraut and rotwurst again? SURFACE!"

"I will light a match, mein Kommandant!!"

"NEIIIIIIIINNN!!!!"*WHOOOMP*

"I say, Trevor...did you hear something?"

"Well, I can't say for sure, old bean...but I did just see a tremendous mine go up a few thousand yards to our North...Jerrry's been busy but unlucky, lately, what?!"
 
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For steampunkish music - look up the [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd2k8RouzaM]The Decemberists[/ame].
WARNING! Not safe for children or grandmothers!

And my favorite -
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaNV7eCU2R0]The Interpretive Whale Dance.[/ame]
The video was done by high school students, and I think that they did a very good, and rather surreal, job of it. :)

I first heard The Mariner's Revenge Song on the steampunk themed podcast Clockwork Cabaret, who call it The Interpretive Whale Dance. :p

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A couple of Motivational posters from my own game (currently wrapping up :) ).
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Images are from Metropolis, the Moloch Engine (the BBEG for this arc) was pretty much stolen from these images. :)

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