still spell with a bard

[npiccini]

My curiousity comes surrounding an assassin in my party who has learned several swift action spells. The rules in the PHB about metamagic feats with bards and sorcerors tells us that using still spell with a spell that has a casting time of one standard action will make it take a full round to cast. After the publication of Complete Adventurer, several spells were given the casting time of one swift or immediate action. What impact does the range of metamagic feats have on the casting time of these spells? As is they only last one round, so if they are extended to full round actions to cast them, does that mean it will last the whole next round?

 

[kjenks]

The spontaneous caster/metamagic rules were not writen with swift actions in mind, but as far as I can tell, if a bard, sorcerer or warmage (or other spontaneous caster) casts ANY spell with a metamagic feat, it takes at least a full-round action -- longer if the spell has a casting time longer than a standard action. So a bard casting swift spell with the Still Spell feat would still take a full-round action, which would make a one-round duration spell mostly worthless.

 

[Jdvn1]

Another option:
As a Bard, you could try to disguise your spellcasting as a performance.

 

[Christian]

So a bard casting swift spell with the Still Spell feat would still take a full-round action, which would make a one-round duration spell mostly worthless.

Just to clarify: while a spell with a casting time of 'one full round' is completed at the beginning of the caster's next round, a spell which has had its casting time lengthened to a full-round action by the use of a metamagic feat is completed on the turn it is cast. So this spell would be completed, the effect would begin at the end of the caster's turn, and then the duration would expire just before the start of the caster's next turn. Which, as kjenks points out, probably removes all point to casting the spell ...

 

[irdeggman]

A spontaneously cast spell can't be used with the quicken spell feat. That is written in the feat description. Due to that and the similarity in function of the swift spell to a quickened spell - I'd say it just can't be done. {I'd have to checkout the description of swift spells though - don't have that book with me at the moment}.