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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 9059754" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>Honestly, I like the Ardling a lot, but not for a PHB. I kinda wish it was being stealth-playtested for <em>Planescape</em>, in the same way the Owlin, Hobgoblin, and Kobold were stealth-playtested for MP:MotM alongside UAs for WBtW and FTD.</p><p></p><p>I would love Ardling to appear alongside the Glitchling, the Bladeling, and a reprint of the Plasmoid in <em>Planescape</em>, with a note to find the Tiefling in the PHB and the Aasimar, Genasi, and Gith in MP:MotM. I bring up Plasmoid because it makes so much sense as a Limbo parallel to the Glitchling…</p><p></p><p>I think reprints are fine if it didn't show up anywhere the <em>Rules Expansion</em> box set, and a select few options from that expansion are fine to reprint in the new <em>Core Rules </em>given the desire to make those even more core. But reprinting from <em>Rules Expansion</em> to campaign settings doesn't make sense.</p><p></p><p>So you can reprint from campaign setting to campaign setting (don't require players to buy <em>Spelljammer</em> to properly play <em>Planescape</em> or <em>Dark Sun</em>, etc), and reprint (with or without revisions) from campaign settings to <em>Rules Expansion</em> (College of Eloquence, Circle of Spores, Bladesinger, Shifters, Centaurs, etc), and revise & reprint from <em>Rules Expansion</em> to <em>Core Rules</em>, but never the opposite direction.</p><p></p><p>To that end: Goliath variants would make sense in BP:GotG, but given that 2024 <em>Core Rules </em>won't have Metallic Dragonborn, Chromatic Dragonborn, or Gem Dragonborn, but will have generic Dragonborn, and the playtest was showing the <em>Core Rules </em>will have the variant Goliaths, it may just not have made sense to put it in here. Especially since FToD came out long enough before 2024 that it wasn't worth delaying, but BP:GotG is being designed explicitly as an expansion to the 2024 <em>Core Rules</em> as much as it is an expansion to the 2014 <em>Core Rules </em>+ 2022 <em>Rules Expansion</em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I LOVE THESE. <em>Steal Steals</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 9059754, member: 6803643"] Honestly, I like the Ardling a lot, but not for a PHB. I kinda wish it was being stealth-playtested for [I]Planescape[/I], in the same way the Owlin, Hobgoblin, and Kobold were stealth-playtested for MP:MotM alongside UAs for WBtW and FTD. I would love Ardling to appear alongside the Glitchling, the Bladeling, and a reprint of the Plasmoid in [I]Planescape[/I], with a note to find the Tiefling in the PHB and the Aasimar, Genasi, and Gith in MP:MotM. I bring up Plasmoid because it makes so much sense as a Limbo parallel to the Glitchling… I think reprints are fine if it didn't show up anywhere the [I]Rules Expansion[/I] box set, and a select few options from that expansion are fine to reprint in the new [I]Core Rules [/I]given the desire to make those even more core. But reprinting from [I]Rules Expansion[/I] to campaign settings doesn't make sense. So you can reprint from campaign setting to campaign setting (don't require players to buy [I]Spelljammer[/I] to properly play [I]Planescape[/I] or [I]Dark Sun[/I], etc), and reprint (with or without revisions) from campaign settings to [I]Rules Expansion[/I] (College of Eloquence, Circle of Spores, Bladesinger, Shifters, Centaurs, etc), and revise & reprint from [I]Rules Expansion[/I] to [I]Core Rules[/I], but never the opposite direction. To that end: Goliath variants would make sense in BP:GotG, but given that 2024 [I]Core Rules [/I]won't have Metallic Dragonborn, Chromatic Dragonborn, or Gem Dragonborn, but will have generic Dragonborn, and the playtest was showing the [I]Core Rules [/I]will have the variant Goliaths, it may just not have made sense to put it in here. Especially since FToD came out long enough before 2024 that it wasn't worth delaying, but BP:GotG is being designed explicitly as an expansion to the 2024 [I]Core Rules[/I] as much as it is an expansion to the 2014 [I]Core Rules [/I]+ 2022 [I]Rules Expansion[/I]. I LOVE THESE. [I]Steal Steals[/I] [/QUOTE]
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