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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dmnqwk" data-source="post: 6819000" data-attributes="member: 6804204">I am not completely sure about the point you are making Yaarel, except that you believe Acrobatics should be a Strength skill.The main issue I have is that you are under the impression Acrobatics in 5th edition is related to the ability to leap tall buildings in a single bound, which it is not. Acrobatics is more representative of the old balance or tumble checks while Athletics, a strength skill, is now a catch all which includes both weightlifting and gymnastics in a single skill.Gymnastics is a physical discipline but it is less based on dexterity and more on strength. It is also not really tied to Acrobatics in DnD, but Athletics. Gymnasts may or may not have a high dexterity, however the key to remember is that Proficiency (or even Expertise) is a larger percentage in 5th edition of the total skill modifier than in previous editions:A Level 20 Rogue with a Strength of 8, but expertise in Athletics, will never score less than a 21 on her checks (-1 attribute, +12 from double proficiency and any roll of 1-9 is automatically treated as a 10). This means that anyone who is not proficient in the skill, but has a Strength of 20, is going to be beaten in an Athletics contest 84% of the time (with 3.5% ties). So while realism is something you can consider, it's really not worth picking a single argument and fighting over it because you're ignoring the bigger picture, which is using numbers to define things will never cause an accurate picture.</blockquote>

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