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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6819292" data-attributes="member: 15700">Have you seen him do all of this?   Just because he does some choreographed routine in a movie does not mean Arnold knows how to use a sword.  You also seem to keep missing when people keep saying that most of these examples are BOTH strength and agility.  Your argument only holds water if a person is either or, and can't have both qualities.  It's a fallacy at the most basic level.  "Look at this really strong person.  He is walking on his hands.  Therefore, the ability to walk on your hands is based on strength."  That's essentially your argument.  And it's horribly false.  I'm actually a lot stronger now than I was when I was a teenager.  But back then, I could easily walk on my hands and do many other acrobatics.  Now?  Not even close.  They are completely different activities that rely on different traits.  One can do both if one practices both, but one does not get better at one by only doing the other.Also, you are also completely mistaken on weight lifting requiring mostly skill, and/or being a skill based activity.  It requires discipline (which covers repetition and diet).  It requires little actual skill.  I can teach anyone everything they need to know in 30 minutes, covering the right technique for the core exercises you'll ever need to know for the rest of your life.  Benching over and over again doesn't make you more skilled at it, unlike any other activity that actually is skill based.  Once you know now to do a bench press, you do the same technique forever; you don't get more skilled at it.Look, all you have to do to increase strength is to get the lactic acid going in the muscles you want to grow, have a good diet with lots of protein, and that's basically it.  There is no skill involved.  There is no agility that gets improved.  Like Arnold said decades ago, weight lifting is like body sculpting.  You focus on the areas you want, and do enough resistance anaerobic workouts to get the lactic acid produced (hitting muscle failure), and intake protein and do scheduled rests.It doesn't matter how many images you keep embedding.  You are simply very mistaken here, and clearly don't understand the topic about which you're trying to argue.  Nothing you've used as examples actually works the way you think it does, from rock climbing to weight training.  You'd know that if you had any experience doing both.  I have.  Trust me on this.</blockquote>

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