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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 6820674" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>Actually, not really.</p><p></p><p>A lot of the steroidal nightmares (such as the pictures Remathilis provided) that people seem to associate with high-strength characters are literally musclebound - in the original meaning of the word. They have developed specific muscles to the point where their movement is actually restricted. Hence Arnie's difficulties using the sword.</p><p>Another thing thing to bear in mind is that most of those bodybuilders depicted have built for "looking muscular" rather than pure strength. Hence the "triangle torso" of massive biceps and shoulders narrowing to tiny waist. They get this by specifically avoiding working the core body muscles, which are the ones used in general feats of strength rather than specialised weightlifting for example. Compare those pictures with the one ChrisCarlson showed of actual strongman competition winners - despite looking less muscular they would be stronger in D&D terms because they are a balanced musculature, able to perform general feats of strength.</p><p></p><p>Can they do an handstand? Possibly, although how long they stay balanced would be a matter of practise and Dexterity.</p><p></p><p>If we have to try to place real-life into D&D terms, I would expect any olympic- or world-level athlete to basically have Expertise in Athletics and/or equivalent skill. </p><p>Actobats and Gymnasts would likely have both high strength and Dex, expertise in both Athletics and Acrobatics, and probably proficiency in Performance as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 6820674, member: 6802951"] Actually, not really. A lot of the steroidal nightmares (such as the pictures Remathilis provided) that people seem to associate with high-strength characters are literally musclebound - in the original meaning of the word. They have developed specific muscles to the point where their movement is actually restricted. Hence Arnie's difficulties using the sword. Another thing thing to bear in mind is that most of those bodybuilders depicted have built for "looking muscular" rather than pure strength. Hence the "triangle torso" of massive biceps and shoulders narrowing to tiny waist. They get this by specifically avoiding working the core body muscles, which are the ones used in general feats of strength rather than specialised weightlifting for example. Compare those pictures with the one ChrisCarlson showed of actual strongman competition winners - despite looking less muscular they would be stronger in D&D terms because they are a balanced musculature, able to perform general feats of strength. Can they do an handstand? Possibly, although how long they stay balanced would be a matter of practise and Dexterity. If we have to try to place real-life into D&D terms, I would expect any olympic- or world-level athlete to basically have Expertise in Athletics and/or equivalent skill. Actobats and Gymnasts would likely have both high strength and Dex, expertise in both Athletics and Acrobatics, and probably proficiency in Performance as well. [/QUOTE]
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