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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8074830" data-attributes="member: 6795602">[USER=93670]@tetrasodium[/USER] - you obviously are very confused.This is what I've talked about the whole time.  The idea of removing +dex to damage.  A longbow fighter would do 1d8 damage only.  At level 5 he would do 1d8 and make 2 attacks.  That's 2d8 vs the Firebolts 2d10.  I don't know why this point is still eluding you - but hopefully this has spelled it out for you.And it does when you take away dex mod damage (which is what my initial post that you replied to was obviously talking about...)It's amazing how you've got in your mind that I am doing something which I am not and no amount of explanation on my part is capable of convincing you otherwise.  Truly amazing.</blockquote>