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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 6656839" data-attributes="member: 6779310"><p>Umbran - extra tracks can add extra consequence slots. Page 289 of Fate Core mentions this. Several other places also mention this.</p><p></p><p>Also, while not explicit in Fate Core, several other Fate rulesets have the "locked aspect" mechanic - a locked aspect is an aspect that is always on - it's invoked for free and the compel is automatic, but neither generates fate flow. A complication under fate core is explicitly an aspect, but note that compelling a complication...</p><p></p><p>Also, see page 123 - where it discusses Resources and Wealth - and how to deal with limited use skills - by adding aspects. It explicitly calls out that these are additional aspects, and NOT consequences - but that they are easily compelled.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, same page ... it discusses that a limited resource bought as a skill might be reduced for each failure, or even for success by 0...</p><p></p><p>These could also be combined... and/or used with a stress track</p><p></p><p>Plus, the stress track added need not use the progression used by Physique and Will... If adding a resources stress track, it's probably best to use it on that same, but if one wants a really potent wealth track, then one might make it 2+(Resources)... </p><p></p><p>Also note: If you attempt a conflict with a track that's already full, you just started already taken out - in other words, if you add a mana track, and you've runout of mana, until you recover some of that track (by whatever means needed) you can't win in a Mana affecting action. You immediately lose with all the usual effects.</p><p></p><p>Looking at the various bits scattered through Fate Core...</p><p>A resource depletion can be modeled several ways:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">failure adds aspects</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Failure lowers skill</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Failure applies stress to a new track</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">failure applies a new consequence</li> </ul><p>If adding a new track, there are several ways to do it:</p><p></p><p>[table="class: grid"][tr][td]skill[/td][td]Mod[/td][td]Std.[/td][td]2+(Skill/2) [/td][td]0+skill[/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Superb[/td][td]+5[/td][td]1 2 3 4 min [/td][td]1 2 3 4 5 [/td][td]1 2 3 4 5[/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Great[/td][td]+4[/td][td]1 2 3 4 [/td][td]1 2 3 4 [/td][td]1 2 3 4 [/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Good[/td][td]+3[/td][td]1 2 3 4 [/td][td]1 2 3 4 [/td][td]1 2 3 [/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Fair[/td][td]+2[/td][td]1 2 3 [/td][td]1 2 3 [/td][td]1 2 [/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Average[/td][td]+1[/td][td]1 2 3 [/td][td]1 2 3 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Mediocre[/td][td]0[/td][td]1 2 [/td][td]1 2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Poor[/td][td]-1[/td][td]1 2 [/td][td]1 2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Terrible[/td][td]-2[/td][td]1 2 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr][/table]</p><p></p><p>One could decide to alter consequences for it as well.</p><p>The options include:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Full set of separate consequences for new track (as per example on 285), with fixed meanings</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Full set of separate consequences, picked when taken</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">use standard consequences only</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">use concession imposed aspects only</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">reduce skill as consequence</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">one or more track specific consequence slots, plus can take standard slots (just like extra slots from skills of great+ work</li> </ul><p></p><p>One might even make the skill for the track grant only the track, and a separate skill grant consequence slots and resistance to drain... for example one might add a wizardry skill and a power skill. Wizardry is used to resist drain, and grants consequence slots, while Power creates the mana track... and Pow is used to recover, too.</p><p>Which might look like:</p><p>[table="class: grid"][tr][td]Wiz[/td][td]Slots[/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]Track[/td][td]Alt Track[/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Superb[/td][td] 2 2 4 6 [/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]1 2 3 4[/td][td]1 2 3 4 5 6 [/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Great[/td][td]2 4 6[/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]1 2 3[/td][td]1 2 3 4 5 [/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Good[/td][td]2 4 6[/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]1 2 3[/td][td]1 2 3 4 [/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Fair[/td][td]2 4 [/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]1 2[/td][td]1 2 3 [/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Average[/td][td]2 4[/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]1 2[/td][td]1 2 [/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Mediocre[/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]1[/td][td]1 [/td][/tr]</p><p>[tr][td]Poor, Terrible[/td][td]none[/td][td][/td][td]Poor, terrible[/td][td]—[/td][td] —[/td][/tr][/table]</p><p>This would give a REALLY powerful set of options... especially if "real damage" can be taken as well...</p><p>Also note that by using two skills, it's a REALLY severe penalty to everything else - because a powerful starting wizard loses their Great and a Good... but he's also got a full set of mana consequences and a 3 box mana stress. If you wanted a bigger allowance, use the alt track. The alt track, by giving a taller stress track, allows bigger failures and many more small failures without consequence. It's a matter of setting the tone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 6656839, member: 6779310"] Umbran - extra tracks can add extra consequence slots. Page 289 of Fate Core mentions this. Several other places also mention this. Also, while not explicit in Fate Core, several other Fate rulesets have the "locked aspect" mechanic - a locked aspect is an aspect that is always on - it's invoked for free and the compel is automatic, but neither generates fate flow. A complication under fate core is explicitly an aspect, but note that compelling a complication... Also, see page 123 - where it discusses Resources and Wealth - and how to deal with limited use skills - by adding aspects. It explicitly calls out that these are additional aspects, and NOT consequences - but that they are easily compelled. Likewise, same page ... it discusses that a limited resource bought as a skill might be reduced for each failure, or even for success by 0... These could also be combined... and/or used with a stress track Plus, the stress track added need not use the progression used by Physique and Will... If adding a resources stress track, it's probably best to use it on that same, but if one wants a really potent wealth track, then one might make it 2+(Resources)... Also note: If you attempt a conflict with a track that's already full, you just started already taken out - in other words, if you add a mana track, and you've runout of mana, until you recover some of that track (by whatever means needed) you can't win in a Mana affecting action. You immediately lose with all the usual effects. Looking at the various bits scattered through Fate Core... A resource depletion can be modeled several ways: [list][*]failure adds aspects[*]Failure lowers skill[*]Failure applies stress to a new track[*]failure applies a new consequence[/list] If adding a new track, there are several ways to do it: [table="class: grid"][tr][td]skill[/td][td]Mod[/td][td]Std.[/td][td]2+(Skill/2) [/td][td]0+skill[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Superb[/td][td]+5[/td][td]1 2 3 4 min [/td][td]1 2 3 4 5 [/td][td]1 2 3 4 5[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Great[/td][td]+4[/td][td]1 2 3 4 [/td][td]1 2 3 4 [/td][td]1 2 3 4 [/td][/tr] [tr][td]Good[/td][td]+3[/td][td]1 2 3 4 [/td][td]1 2 3 4 [/td][td]1 2 3 [/td][/tr] [tr][td]Fair[/td][td]+2[/td][td]1 2 3 [/td][td]1 2 3 [/td][td]1 2 [/td][/tr] [tr][td]Average[/td][td]+1[/td][td]1 2 3 [/td][td]1 2 3 [/td][td]1 [/td][/tr] [tr][td]Mediocre[/td][td]0[/td][td]1 2 [/td][td]1 2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr] [tr][td]Poor[/td][td]-1[/td][td]1 2 [/td][td]1 2 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr] [tr][td]Terrible[/td][td]-2[/td][td]1 2 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr][/table] One could decide to alter consequences for it as well. The options include: [list][*]Full set of separate consequences for new track (as per example on 285), with fixed meanings [*]Full set of separate consequences, picked when taken [*]use standard consequences only [*]use concession imposed aspects only [*]reduce skill as consequence [*]one or more track specific consequence slots, plus can take standard slots (just like extra slots from skills of great+ work[/list] One might even make the skill for the track grant only the track, and a separate skill grant consequence slots and resistance to drain... for example one might add a wizardry skill and a power skill. Wizardry is used to resist drain, and grants consequence slots, while Power creates the mana track... and Pow is used to recover, too. Which might look like: [table="class: grid"][tr][td]Wiz[/td][td]Slots[/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]Track[/td][td]Alt Track[/td][/tr] [tr][td]Superb[/td][td] 2 2 4 6 [/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]1 2 3 4[/td][td]1 2 3 4 5 6 [/td][/tr] [tr][td]Great[/td][td]2 4 6[/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]1 2 3[/td][td]1 2 3 4 5 [/td][/tr] [tr][td]Good[/td][td]2 4 6[/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]1 2 3[/td][td]1 2 3 4 [/td][/tr] [tr][td]Fair[/td][td]2 4 [/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]1 2[/td][td]1 2 3 [/td][/tr] [tr][td]Average[/td][td]2 4[/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]1 2[/td][td]1 2 [/td][/tr] [tr][td]Mediocre[/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Pow[/td][td]1[/td][td]1 [/td][/tr] [tr][td]Poor, Terrible[/td][td]none[/td][td][/td][td]Poor, terrible[/td][td]—[/td][td] —[/td][/tr][/table] This would give a REALLY powerful set of options... especially if "real damage" can be taken as well... Also note that by using two skills, it's a REALLY severe penalty to everything else - because a powerful starting wizard loses their Great and a Good... but he's also got a full set of mana consequences and a 3 box mana stress. If you wanted a bigger allowance, use the alt track. The alt track, by giving a taller stress track, allows bigger failures and many more small failures without consequence. It's a matter of setting the tone. [/QUOTE]
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