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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scribble" data-source="post: 5050818" data-attributes="member: 23977">The flavor. Like I said earlier, I set my 3e campaign in the scarred lands, but we used pretty much none of the crunch. It wasn't the various prcs and new classes and stuff that drew me to the scarred lands. It was the story behind the setting. It inspired my game, and made me think of a ton of different things that could be happening in the world- I still used a lot of the setting material in my 4e game.I bet you if you were to talk to the 4e players out there there would be a lot like me. We don't want or need the crunch to dictate the flavor. We want good flavor  for the good crunch we already have.I'm telling you if you want me to give you money here is a way you can have me do so... and you tell me it's to "hard on a writer's soul?" And writing umpteen books with new feats/prcs/spells is different in some way?Personally I don't believe 4e is "bad" for 3pp, I feel it's just different. You can't take what was popular in 3e and apply it to 4e. It's not the same game it has different wants and different needs, and YES I do believe this stuff would sell, because I want to buy it, and I really don't believe I'm way different then the majority of gamers out there.3pp if you want my money, make these products, and products along these lines. If you don't want my money... do something else I guess, but please don't continue to declare 4e people don't want/need 3pp products. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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