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<blockquote data-quote="Merkuri" data-source="post: 3084320" data-attributes="member: 41321">If you ask me, these both sound like variations on the &quot;you didn't ask&quot; syndrome to me.&nbsp; Facts like, &quot;all of your ropes are still tied together&quot; and &quot;the auctioneer is in full plate&quot; should be things that the characters notice, even if the players don't.&nbsp; If a player has his character act on bad information - regardless of whether it's his misunderstanding or the DM accidentally leaving something out - they should be allowed to revise their actions (within reason) after being informed of the actual situation.&nbsp; I'd think after the first knot went by in the rope that the person holding it would've said, &quot;oh sh--&quot; and would've grabbed for it.&nbsp; If the idea was that one end of the rope was tied to the jumper and one end was tied to something else, there's no way you wouldn't notice the extra 150' of rope in between.&nbsp; And if the slave-buyer hadn't realized the auctioneer was wearing plate armor, he definitely should have once he was handing over the bag of money and deciding where to stab.&nbsp; Players shouldn't be punished for not noticing things they would've easily seen had they been there in person, IMO.&nbsp; D&amp;D isn't a riddle (though it may contain them).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Merkuri, post: 3084320, member: 41321"] If you ask me, these both sound like variations on the "you didn't ask" syndrome to me. Facts like, "all of your ropes are still tied together" and "the auctioneer is in full plate" should be things that the characters notice, even if the players don't. If a player has his character act on bad information - regardless of whether it's his misunderstanding or the DM accidentally leaving something out - they should be allowed to revise their actions (within reason) after being informed of the actual situation. I'd think after the first knot went by in the rope that the person holding it would've said, "oh sh--" and would've grabbed for it. If the idea was that one end of the rope was tied to the jumper and one end was tied to something else, there's no way you wouldn't notice the extra 150' of rope in between. And if the slave-buyer hadn't realized the auctioneer was wearing plate armor, he definitely should have once he was handing over the bag of money and deciding where to stab. Players shouldn't be punished for not noticing things they would've easily seen had they been there in person, IMO. D&D isn't a riddle (though it may contain them). [/QUOTE]

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