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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 9241113" data-attributes="member: 63508">I don't think character control was ever mentioned as a viable playstyle.But there were games that are heavy on Intigue, Diplomacy, Travel, Management, and Mystery that mostly split into 3 playstyles.<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The DM and Players roleplay freeform based on their character's traits with no dice rolls beyond maybe an initial reaction roll</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The DM and Players roleplay based on their character's traits and roll a die to discover the final resolution</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The DM and Players roleplay based on their character's traits, roll a dice for every significant action, and discover the outcome via a tally or the final dice roll</li> </ol>There is a trend, because 1e and 2e were not printed with skills or NWP, to see #2 and #3 ignored or denied existing by a vocal group in the community. Then you have another vocal group who do to them not liking #2 or #3, straight up claiming them as inferior and without any good merit.Because there is a playstyle of wanting to true experience the life of the PC or NPC. It's the opposite of "Many people play a human fighter because it's familar". "Many people play an lizarkfolk barbarian, warforged artificer, or grey dwarf psion because it's unfamiliar"And because it's unfamiliar in order to get that feeling, you must abstract a lot with mechanics. Or be an actor.</blockquote>

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