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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9241585">But this is just due to the looseness of language we are using. If you want to win by linguistic check mate, fair enough. But it is clear if you look at what I have been saying that isn't my argument.  My point in that post is that that some people are arguing that support means having systems in place for that part of play, so I am pointing out that D&D does in fact have systems. People are also making the case that if you don't have systems, that isn't supporting that part of play. And here I am arguing that is not the case. That absence of mechanical rules in a given area can be a strength of design to make that area more open and free (which is supporting it) Again my point was there are varying degrees of mechanical support across editions. In terms of AD&D it keeps many things freeform but it also does have areas where non-combat stuff is addressed. In 2E many of those areas are optional (NWPs are optional for instance).</blockquote>