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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9244362" data-attributes="member: 23751">I disagree with you on this.  I've read books where survival was a thing at the beginning.  Eventually the heroes overcame and established a base, farmed food so it wasn't scarce, etc. and the story moved on to other challenges.  Survival roleplay is no different.  You aren't supposed to stay with the same level initial challenge the entire time. It's not that the world conditions have necessarily changed(though that's possible), but rather than you've figured out a way to get past the initial challenge and have moved on to more difficult world challenges to try and conquer and survive those.Sure, but remember that in my scenario, they were marooned at level 1, so no alchemy jug unless you the DM wanted to have it be buried treasure or wash up on shore, in which case you gave it to them to help them survive.  One PC that doesn't need to eat doesn't help the others survive. The druid helps with food and water, but there are still many other survival aspects to the island that the druid a 1st level druid can't help with.  The hut didn't come into play until 5th level and can help out for sure, but that's fantastic. They've eventually gained a tool to help survive! That's what the style is all about.The existence of games that do survival better doesn't make 5e poor.  I've already said that D&D does the styles decently to well, but not great.  Pointing to other games that do it great is just pointing to another game that does it great, not showing that 5e is bad at it or unsupported.That's what I'm saying.  I'm not jumping through any hoops. None. Survival games are about evolving challenges.  Watch Castaway or any other Robinson Crusoe style movie.  Initially they can barely find anything to eat and are on the verge of starvation.  Then they figure out the tricks and techniques to finding food and water moving past it as a survival issue.  They are basically farming the island. They need to work, but aren't danger of starvation.  Then a harder survival challenge like a hurricane shows up.  That's the survival style.Fair enough.  It was enjoyable, even if we did disagree. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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